Your race or sex means you can't speak on this.
For example, there are certain topics that should be ladies only. A guy does not have the right to talk about periods. Period.
PMT / PMS is the bane of my life , am I not allowed to talk about it and have to suffer in silence like a downtrodden man.
I would say you could talk about it, but I doubt I would take you seriously if you told me something along the lines of "just get over it," as I've had some men do to me.
I never learn when my GF is pre menstrual so when she starts with what are irrational things imo it drives me insane , only after a blazing row I realise it's PMT so I let it go. I can't even broach PMT as that's a catalyst in it's self.
I wouldn't tell you 'to get over it' but I would try to logically explain why you are acting this way ( as in my experience women don't realise it's the PMT , or the other one is they do it and cant control it ) and I am not the scum of the earth , you just think it at the moment. This conversation usually only happens once per girlfriend then I am shutdown.
Speaking from personal experience, most women know exactly what is causing "it." When I'm being a banshee over stupid issues, I check the calendar, and I can see that I'm about to start my "womanly time."
I think most women take it badly when a man asks us about PMS is because we're used to being dismissed on the basis of our emotions.
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I think most women take it badly when a man asks us about PMS is because we're used to being dismissed on the basis of our emotions.
This might sound like a weird question but has anyone, to your awareness, whose had strong enough pulls like that to be seriously annoyed by them tried taking B-complex or Lion's Mane and other similar nootropic mushroom supplements and seen any smoothing of that gradient?
I think of all of the life trouble those two things have helped me get through, in the past year especially I've survived one of the most traumatic work situations of my life, on an on-going basis, and what I'm pretty sure would have killed me ended up only nearly destroying my health instead and I was able to keep relative sanity even under some of the most insane circumstances of my life.
I also used to have significant pulls/changes from changing seasons and I noticed that went away into my late 20's and early 30's - partly with supplements I think as as well as discovering around 20 that I had an allergy to most artificial sweeteners and that I needed to cut them out.
Not sure how much of that is transferable information but I know, at least from my own experience, how not-fun it is to get throttled by my brain chemistry and I feel like I'd be remiss not sharing anything that's helped.
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I think most women take it badly when a man asks us about PMS is because we're used to being dismissed on the basis of our emotions.
This might sound like a weird question but has anyone, to your awareness, whose had strong enough pulls like that to be seriously annoyed by them tried taking B-complex or Lion's Mane and other similar nootropic mushroom supplements and seen any smoothing of that gradient?
I think of all of the life trouble those two things have helped me get through, in the past year especially I've survived one of the most traumatic work situations of my life, on an on-going basis, and what I'm pretty sure would have killed me ended up only nearly destroying my health instead and I was able to keep relative sanity even under some of the most insane circumstances of my life.
I also used to have significant pulls/changes from changing seasons and I noticed that went away into my late 20's and early 30's - partly with supplements I think as as well as discovering around 20 that I had an allergy to most artificial sweeteners and that I needed to cut them out.
Not sure how much of that is transferable information but I know, at least from my own experience, how not-fun it is to get throttled by my brain chemistry and I feel like I'd be remiss not sharing anything that's helped.
Please have faith that once women have become adults we have already learned to deal with our periods as best we can. I can assure you that we've had all the ideas and tried all the things and we know what works for us and what doesn't, so don't bother suggesting things to take like maybe no one has suggested it before, because some helpful man has definitely suggested all the things we've already tried before so there's no need to keep being "helpful" with adult women explaining to them how they should deal with their period issues, OK? Please guys, can you stop that?
If you were maybe talking to a little girl who just got her first period and hasn't had the talk with her mother yet I could understand the offering advice. But we are adult women, we've been getting periods for years and years now. We don't need your help, we know how to get through it. Thanks for offering, but please stop offering suggestions to adult women about their periods. There really is no good time to advise an adult woman about her period, especially if you don't get a period yourself and are completely hypothesizing compared to the adult woman's years of life experience of how to deal with her period. Then you're just making yourself look like "that guy". Nobody wants to be that guy. Please stop being that guy.
Best not try any form of mansplaining on this subject ... you wouldn't take any advice on your car from someone who has never driven a car of his own, now would you?
It really wouldn't be a problem if it weren't something that guys were doing us our whole lives--but it seems like every guy you meet and get to know thinks he's the first guy who has ever thought to advise you about your period, when it feels like it's been every guy since we were teenagers. What makes it that much more annoying is that each of you think you're the first to suggest this or that ("Oh Ibuprofen/Aspirin/Tylenol/some herb/Chinese medicine/hack remedy for my cramps/mood swings/hot flashes! Sure, I've never thought of that before but I will totally try it now that you've thought of it for me!"--said no woman, ever. Because we've tried it all already, and it's definitely been suggested before.)
By the time we are adults, we've heard it all before. We've talked to our doctors if that was warranted, we've tried different things. And we're definitely tired of hearing from men about things they don't experience themselves but think they have valuable insight on. Men: Your insight on periods is not as valuable as you assume, I'm sorry to break it to you but that's how it is.
You're already doing what you can do, which is to not tell her what she should do about it. That is more relief than you know.
I know it's best to say nothing but It just bothers me to not, so feel free to criticize me all you wish and I'll leave it at this one statement. If a doctor would happen to come up with a risk free medication which greatly eased the symptoms, would he be denied in offering it because women have already tried everything and thought of everything? I find it hard to believe any person on nearly any subject has thought of everything, that's how knowledge evolves, different people think of different solutions to different problems, if we had already thought of everything we would be done with pursuing new discoveries.
Now, feel free to criticize me and I will just end it at the statement I already offered.
Crim,
My gynaecologist is a man and of course I would heed his advice, not considering his gender but considering his expertise and knowledge as a specialist. That being said, if the medication didn't work I would tell him -- as would all of the other women, I'm sure. None of the arguments on WP have to do with gender lines. They are about which people would know the topics in more specialised detail according to personal (and /or professional) experience.
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Crim, everything available has been tried. Every suggestion has been heard. If a new treatment is developed, you can bet that women will be the first to hear the announcement and act on it.
Remember "The Pill"?
The day after it was approved (in 1960!) for the treatment of irregular periods, hundreds of thousands of women reported their irregular periods to their doctors and were given prescriptions. The Pill's contraceptive properties were only part of the reason for it's popularity, another major feature was its ability to regulate the reproductive cycle and lessen the associated cramping...
So there are no new discoverers that can be made on the subject at hand? I take into account, personal experience. Like say, one woman has figured something out that has helped her, that doesn't mean all women have figured this out nor does it mean it's a solution for all women. Then it also makes me think of this, we have obtained so much collective knowledge that it's not possible for anyone to know everything, I'm sure either of you could enlighten me on things I have never even heard of, thus it's also possible I could enlighten either of you on something you have never heard of. I'm not pretending I have a solution, more so just making an argument on the abundance of knowledge we already have plus undiscovered knowledge.
Different people can think of different solutions to help with different things, that's the major bonus of having many people work on a problem versus one. I'm not saying there is a cure all secret but pointing out the dangers of closing yourself off to new ideas others could offer. I would never go so far as to insist I have thought of everything, that would be quite foolish and someone could easily come along and prove me wrong. I can understand how a women could see it as irritating if many men try to help out if it seems to happen often, but it still puts you in a state to get upset and turn down any advice that could be offered to help. I'll just leave it to the doctors, I don't think I can help, just trying to point out that not one person has thought of everything and there is no guarantee that nothing will ever be developed to help out, pointing out that nothing has came along yet is not to suggest that nothing will ever come along. That's the basis to how knowledge evolves.
Even all doctors aren't up to par on everything evolving within the medical fields. I'm not saying there is some breakthrough that is a cure all for every woman, but do take note that every person is different and there generally isn't a cure all for anything.
I'm not a woman or a doctor so I wouldn't know, but have they not produced any medications at all to help any woman with this? If they have, what would be the odds that every doctor is aware of it? There are tons of medications, every doctor is not aware of every medication.
How quickly do you become aware of new medical discoveries? If you are a "Joe Stereotype", it's a safe bet that you would find out sooner than most women about new discoveries related to erectile dysfunction, baldness, jock itch, or swollen prostates, depending on your age.
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