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True, but take not that women aren't the only sex which can have hormone imbalances that can effect mood swings. Also, natural remedies exist. For example, aloe juice for chronic gastritis. Not one doctor has told me that will help because it's not approved by the FDA nor has it had drug trials to test for relief with gastritis. My mother told me to try it out and it did help, unlike diet change and anti-acids, it offers pretty fast relief. A doctor would never recommend it and all people who have gastritis have not heard of drinking aloe juice for relief from gastritis.

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Many women consult GPs, OBGYNs, endocrinologists, pelvic surgeons, laser therapists, psychologists, physiotherapists, occupational therapists, sex therapists, osteopaths, homeopaths, naturopaths, hypnotists, Chinese medicine practitioners, acupuncturists, and reiki or massage therapists, in conjunction with taking NSAIDs and / or medications ranging from herbal remedies to hormone treatment to narcotics. They might have laparoscopic procedures or have organs removed to treat their issues.

The advice of people who are neither specialists nor bearers of uteri can seem irrelevant, when all of this has been tried.

No offence, guys.

None taken , have you tried smoking banana peel ?

JK

lol no --- but I had medical procedures that you wouldn't believe, even if I described them.

I'll leave it at that.

smoking bannana peel is one of the biggest drug hoax's.

Are we talking PMS or PMDD or is that too personal?

I’ve always noticed women I’ve met or seen on social media wish men wouldn’t be embarrassed by periods and avoid it like the plaque, yet you all seem too wish they would do exactly that and pretend it doesn’t exist. 0.o

It’s just another medical issue and I don’t think one should hide or want their spouse to pretend such condition doesn’t exist. Mean I don’t want advice about autism but I wouldn’t want it just ignored and never talked about.

I did have PMDD, but I had those treatments for other issues ranging from cramps to endo to surgery, re: assault.
I've had treatments I can't describe. I'm not trying to bait you. I'm just saying that many women know the health care system inside out. No pun intended.

Absolutely not.

No one is saying you should pretend it doesn't happen or that you're not allowed to talk about it at all, we're just asking that men stop making suggestions to us about ways to deal with it because men always do that without thinking that we've probably already tried it and it's been suggested before. Don't give advice on how to deal with something you don't experience, that's not hard to avoid.

I know you are not trying to bait me ( you do that by PM ) and I didn't want you to divulge anything you didn't want to

It's 100% fine for you to ask. I'm the one who brought it up, and it's all between friends.
(Plus, the rest of the intewebs I suppose).

Which brings us nicely back onto the thread topic , well played.

I could not resist

"Please have faith that once autistics have become adults we have already learned to deal with our traits as best we can. I can assure you that we've had all the ideas and tried all the things and we know what works for us and what doesn't, so don't bother suggesting things to take like maybe no one has suggested it before, because some helpful neurotypical has definitely suggested all the things we've already tried before so there's no need to keep being "helpful" with adult autistics explaining to them how they should deal with their Autistic traits, OK? Please, can you stop that?

If you were maybe talking to a child who just found out they were autistic I could understand the offering advice. But we are adults, we've had these traits for years and years now. We don't need your help, we know how to get through it. Thanks for offering, but please stop offering suggestions to adult autistics. There really is no good time to advise adult autistics, especially if you are neurotypical completely hypothesizing compared to the adult autistics years of life experience of how to deal with our traits. Then you're just making yourself look like "that so-called ally". Nobody wants to be that so called ally. Please stop being that so called ally"

It's kind of funny, because it's an issue of mind blindness that causes people to offer unwanted advice like this (and NTs are just as prone to this as autistic people, I just think it's more notable in us because we're the neurological minority).

It comes from the problem that people who haven't been living with a particular condition for years won't be able to imagine spending all that time learning to live with and adapting to that condition and will assume it is as new a topic of thought to the person they are talking to as it is to themselves, and will offer advice with the tacit assumption that the person they are talking to, the person who has lived with this condition for years, is just as ignorant about how to live with it as they themselves offering advice are. They project their own feeling of ignorance onto the other person without stopping to consider that the person they are talking to has already been thinking about this thing for years and it is not new to them at all, therefore they really don't need advice from someone for whom it is a new topic of thought and a subject of which they have no personal experience.

It's a failure of empathy, a failure of the ability to understand that other people can have a completely different perspective from your own due to different life experiences.

So pretty much like a lot of the posts on this forum when advice is given.

But men can have hormone imbalances which cause mood swings. Women are the only ones who have them because of having PMS but PMS is not the only cause for mood swings.

I understand that women try lots of things, just give me one at least, it's pretty obvious that one woman trying everything known to man dosen't mean all women have tried everything that another woman has tried, I mean, do women attack eachother when a woman goes to give another woman any advice, or do they just automatically assume that every woman has tried everything. I could assume that it also affects different women to different degrees and that it is possible that it affects some women on such a small scale that they don't try anything because it doesn't really affect them bad enough that they would consider it a problem to try to solve.

Isabella, do you think that every woman on this planet has tried all of the same things you have tried? I'm specifically talking about the mood swing symptom, which many people experience, not just women. Anyway, you don't have to answer, I'm not trying to upset anyone, I just find it hard to believe that every woman in existence has tried everything possible, surely there was a point where you yourself discovered new things to try. Do women just not talk to eachother at all about this or do they sometimes try to inform eachother of something that may work for them that the other hasn't heard of?

To me, that seems to go against the concept of learning, women aren't born with the knowledge of knowing everything possible, I would imagine it's like most people, it's a learning process as you grow and intake new information. Depression medication is built on the princibles of trying to correct hormonal imbalances. But anyway, I guess I should probably just drop it to avoid going in loops, I've said the same thing pretty much every time, though I did add the concept of how women grow and learn about options to help.

I'm a little hard headed, it just sticks out like a sore thumb that surely different women go through different things and discover new options from time to time, then to add the learning process, for example if a women were to ask your advice you would be able to inform her of things you have tried, you wouldn't just assume she automatically has obtained all the information you have and just say, I'm sorry but as a women surely you have tried everything that I have so I cannot help you.

I'll just shut up now. Lord knows how I end up in conversations like this, I'm not even trying to offer any advice, just trying to point out that all women, just like all people, aren't automatically aware of things other people learn.

I will make this my last statement on this subject, I'm very debate driven, it's hard to stop myself sometimes. I do listen though, it just takes someone to prove me wrong for me to be able to stop trying to debate. Anyway, men get mood swings also, I've had my share of them, though it was from extreme stress and possible bi-polar, though since I'm no longer in extremely stressful situations I don't really have mood swings, so I think that was a bunk diagnosis. Anyway, no hard feelings and I will just drop it now, I was supposed to after my first comment, I just get tempted.