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TheRevengeofTW1ZTY
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27 Apr 2019, 3:04 am

I don't understand people who hold more sympathy towards rapists and murderers than they do the victims and their families. What the f**k is wrong with society? I don't think serving less than 10 years is punishment enough for the kind of people who would sadistically butcher an innocent person. And to make it worse nowadays the people who demand real justice are painted as being the true badguys and not the criminals. We always have to hear some phony sob story about how the killer's mommy never hugged him and that should always excuse what he did.

I'm speaking as someone who had a family member who was violently murdered and nobody really gave a s**t about her or her family.

Talk about a liberal agenda, right? :roll:


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27 Apr 2019, 3:38 am

Do you have a particular person or case in mind (or multiple ones)? Brenton Tarrant comes to mind re: the sympathy issue among the White Power crowd and there are a scarily large number of them. Though I expect NZ will give him a life sentence, since they don't have the death penalty.



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27 Apr 2019, 4:09 am

breaks0 wrote:
Do you have a particular person or case in mind (or multiple ones)? Brenton Tarrant comes to mind re: the sympathy issue among the White Power crowd and there are a scarily large number of them. Though I expect NZ will give him a life sentence, since they don't have the death penalty.

How about my aunt who was beaten to death with a hammer by her abusive husband and stuffed inside a black trashbag as he lit her trailer on fire trying to dispose of the evidence? That really destroyed my family, and nobody gave a s**t because we're all just white trash.

There's also two cases in Canada of teenage girls murdering their families: one who, with the help of her boyfriend, butchered her parents and little brother so they could run away together and two sisters who drugged their mother and drowned her in a barhtub so that they could collect their inheritence early.

By Canadian law not only did they serve less than 10 years for this s**t but the Canadian government paid for their education and gave them new identities upon release so that nobody will know who they were and what they did. How is that justice? And do NOT tell me "That helps them become productive members of society!" because that is a load of bologna.

Those girls were sociopaths who deserve to be locked away for what they did!


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27 Apr 2019, 12:21 pm

You support the constitution right?

8th amendment, no cruel and unusual punishment. We are to be humane to criminals. Give them their day in court and deal with them in a relatively non painful way.


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27 Apr 2019, 1:09 pm

JonWood007 wrote:
You support the constitution right?

8th amendment, no cruel and unusual punishment. We are to be humane to criminals. Give them their day in court and deal with them in a relatively non painful way.


I feel like some people think any punishment is "cruel and unusual". Silly, isn't it?


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27 Apr 2019, 5:01 pm

Brock Turner comes to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner

Turner was indicted on January 28, 2015, on five charges: two for rape, two for felony sexual assault, and one for attempted rape.

He was accused of assaulting and raping behind a trash dumpster.

In the end, he served three months in jail.

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27 Apr 2019, 5:03 pm

Yeah, it really sucks. Feels like there is no real justice in this world! :evil:


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28 Apr 2019, 2:18 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Brock Turner comes to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner

Turner was indicted on January 28, 2015, on five charges: two for rape, two for felony sexual assault, and one for attempted rape.

He was accused of assaulting and raping behind a trash dumpster.

In the end, he served three months in jail.

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Yeah. For several reasons. Not least among which is that the situation was basically that they two both decided to have sex behind the dumpster, drunk off their asses. She passes out during the act and he drunkenly doesn't notice until he's spotted by two other dudes, panics and runs away. Add to that the the woman in question was an alcoholic with a documented medical history of having periods where she appears and acts perfectly lucid, but will later remember none of it (it's called something with blackout, it's a thing that happens to alcoholics), which made her testimony shall we say unreliable.


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28 Apr 2019, 3:10 pm

Main thought here:

Often attributed to Stalin (perhaps apocryphal): "A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.". Translation - people just go numb when the numbers get high enough, it becomes an abstraction (like 1 trillion dollars), so they lose proportionality.


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