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BlueIris24
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22 May 2019, 10:19 am

I know I stated in a previous thread that I'm a registered Republican, but I no longer am. I changed my political party to non-affiliated. I don't feel that either political party has the everyday person's best interests at heart. They're more concerned with winning over the billionaires and the corporations.

I don't think Trump's doing a terrible job, but I don't like some of what he's doing. Getting rid of environmental protections and denying climate change is dangerous. Even if you might be skeptical of climate change, to deny the possibility of it altogether is just silly. Maybe he'll change his stance (I hope so), but I'm not sure. A lot of Republicans have the same attitude on climate change and the environment.



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22 May 2019, 10:25 am

I am not registered with any political party, but my views are considered center-right (though fiercely libertarian when it comes to social issues)


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22 May 2019, 10:26 am

I am registered with no political party -- "No Political Affiliation".

I vote on the issues, rather than who supports them.

I vote on the qualifications, rather than the candidates' personalities.

If this makes me an independent voter, then so be it.

Just don't say that I'm a member of the American Independent Party -- they're just a bunch of Democrats who don't like their party's candidates.



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22 May 2019, 10:41 am

Fnord wrote:
I am registered with no political party -- "No Political Affiliation".

I vote on the issues, rather than who supports them.

I vote on the qualifications, rather than the candidates' personalities.

If this makes me an independent voter, then so be it.

Just don't say that I'm a member of the American Independent Party -- they're just a bunch of Democrats who don't like their party's candidates.


AIP was far-right. They were George Wallace's party in 1968, and was a predecessor to the Constitution Party.


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22 May 2019, 10:45 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I am registered with no political party -- "No Political Affiliation".

I vote on the issues, rather than who supports them.

I vote on the qualifications, rather than the candidates' personalities.

If this makes me an independent voter, then so be it.

Just don't say that I'm a member of the American Independent Party -- they're just a bunch of Democrats who don't like their party's candidates.
AIP was far-right. They were George Wallace's party in 1968, and was a predecessor to the Constitution Party.
Either way, they're as politically impotent as any lame-duck senator.



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22 May 2019, 1:35 pm

Well I want to vote in the primaries, so I am registered as a democrat.


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22 May 2019, 1:41 pm

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Well I want to vote in the primaries, so I am registered as a democrat.
California now has an open primary system, where you don't have to declare your party affiliation. Before it was implemented, however, I got the distinct impression that the poll workers were trying to get me to declare as a Democrat instead of as an "NPA" (No Party Affiliation). I want nothing to do with either of the major political parties, and most of the minor ones, as well.



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22 May 2019, 1:47 pm

BlueIris24 wrote:
I know I stated in a previous thread that I'm a registered Republican, but I no longer am. I changed my political party to non-affiliated. I don't feel that either political party has the everyday person's best interests at heart. They're more concerned with winning over the billionaires and the corporations.

I don't think Trump's doing a terrible job, but I don't like some of what he's doing. Getting rid of environmental protections and denying climate change is dangerous. Even if you might be skeptical of climate change, to deny the possibility of it altogether is just silly. Maybe he'll change his stance (I hope so), but I'm not sure. A lot of Republicans have the same attitude on climate change and the environment.


He's not going to change his stance because he doesn't care, there are only two things he cares about wealth and power. I wish I could believe he does care and somewhere deep down inside he is genuinely trying to serve the country as president to the best of his ability, but I just don't see it. Seems like he would have no problem completely betraying the country on a treasonous level if it serves him....another words he'd push his own grandma under the bus.

I mean I feel going back to the time when George W. Bush was president would be a step up from the Trump presidency.


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22 May 2019, 2:01 pm

Fnord wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well I want to vote in the primaries, so I am registered as a democrat.
California now has an open primary system, where you don't have to declare your party affiliation. Before it was implemented, however, I got the distinct impression that the poll workers were trying to get me to declare as a Democrat instead of as an "NPA" (No Party Affiliation). I want nothing to do with either of the major political parties, and most of the minor ones, as well.



I should look into if they're doing that here, they may have changed it so you don't need to be registered for the primary it was talked about but I don't know if it passed.

That said it may be rather silly but I think its possible being registered as a democrat gives better opportunity to influence the party to be better.


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22 May 2019, 2:11 pm

I'm a registered Independent. I never affiliated myself with a political party.



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22 May 2019, 2:14 pm

Trump is somebody who wants to expand the power of the Executive Branch to the point where I doubt he would mind it if he were declared "President for Life."



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23 May 2019, 12:11 am

In registered as a democrat for primary purposes, and I am on the left, but i don't really define myself as a democrat more than in name only. I'm not a party loyalist, but a free thinker bound to ideas. I'll even vote third party if I feel dissatisfied with democrats. I feel like maintaining independence is important for the sake of objectivity, and because i find the democratic party as an institution as corrupt and in need to be held accountable. Even groups I'd be more inclined to agree with, like campaigns of my favorite candidates, i feel the need to be willing to maintain some level of independence to dissent from stuff they do that I do not approve of.


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23 May 2019, 1:28 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Trump is somebody who wants to expand the power of the Executive Branch to the point where I doubt he would mind it if he were declared "President for Life."

Obama expanded it giving trump all the powers he’s using right no, kings Obama , where was your anger then? Where was it when Clinton expanded it?
You do realize expanding the Powers’s illegally started with fdr, and every democrat and republican since has expanded the power. Most of what they do now isn’t constitutional legal and presidents before fdr couldn’t do it. So yet another thing to thank Democrats for, another is robbing social security so it’s doomed to run out in 2020.

I find it annoying that people b***h about things trump did but he got them all from Obama no one cared then. Well as I and others told you all, there won’t alway be a Democrat in office and payback will be a b***h.

Do I care now? No why should I? Did I expect trump to be different no. Why would I?
I’m glad he used the same illegal powers to roll back many things Obama put into to
Place with said Ilegal powers, as Obama said how Needs congress I have a pen and paper.

Dare you to go a week without mentioning trump once.

You try to act unbiased but posts like this show how biased you are and how caught up in the Democrats anti trump paranoia you are.
As far as illegal powers trump isn’t near as bad as Obama


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23 May 2019, 3:47 am

I'm not an official member of any party. I used to vote for people leaning to the right, but these days I vote for those who don't really lean in to either direction.

I'm not from USA though.



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23 May 2019, 5:29 am

Social Security is not going to run out in 2020. Where did you get that info?

FDR had to do what he had to do in order to solve the problems bought about by the Great Depression. 25% OFFICIAL unemployment in 1932-1933, for one. That means at least half were at least severely underemployed. People with medical degrees sometimes having to live on the street and sell apples.

Even during the recent Great Recession, OFFICIAL unemployment never went over 12%

You just like Trump. You have something against Democrats. It’s a matter of personal taste. Both parties suck.



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23 May 2019, 10:33 am

sly279 wrote:
Obama expanded it giving trump all the powers he’s using right no, kings Obama , where was your anger then? Where was it when Clinton expanded it?
You do realize expanding the Powers’s illegally started with fdr, and every democrat and republican since has expanded the power. Most of what they do now isn’t constitutional legal and presidents before fdr couldn’t do it. So yet another thing to thank Democrats for, another is robbing social security so it’s doomed to run out in 2020.


Expanding the power of the executive has been a constant since John Adams took over for George Washington. Occasionally after an especially egregious president, congress has wrested some of the power back.

Thomas Jefferson doubled the size of the country on questionable authority. Critics referred to Andrew Jackson as "King Jackson" (and he straight up defied a Supreme Court Ruling). Much of what Abraham Lincoln did was on questionable authority and Congress took back a lot of power during the Johnson and Grant Presidencies. Theodore Roosevelt was thought of as an off the leash mad men (when he went lion hunting his opponents toasted to "the health of the lions.") FDR recklessly expanded the presidency, and when the Supreme Court smacked him around a bit he tried to pack the court. Thankfully the American people told him no. Once again after FDRs presidency was over Congress took some power back during Truman's presidency. Nixon was famously imperialistic, and after his presidency Congress once again took some power back.

Every modern president has expanded the executive's powers with the possible exception of H.W. Bush. Reagan made the executive more powerful, Clinton expanded it from that, Bush expanded it further, Obama did even more, and now Trump is building on that. If there's a reason to be concerned it's that if the executive continuously expands eventually we'll have a dictator.


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