Is it ok to be a nationalist on Wrong Planet?

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Is it OK to be a nationalist - yes. Most of our users are nationalists, they support the existence of nation states.

Is it OK to be an ethnic nationalist - no. Ethnic nationalist is a form of racism, which is against WrongPlanet's rules. If a view would get you kicked off Twitter, a platform with very little moderation, then it is not acceptable here.

That includes, but is not limited to:

- Advocating for racial homogeneity.
- Claiming that the racial composition of a society is important (it is obviously fine to consider it if you have to diagnose sickle cell anaemia, but that is obviously irrelevant to most people's day to day lives)
- Objecting to the exhibition of interracial relationships in the media.
- Holocaust denial apologia
- Accusing black people of idolising gang members en masse
- Justifying racial prejudice ("it would be foolish of me not to make initial assumptions based on race")
- Opposition to multiculturalism
- Suggesting that natural immigration is "enforced"

Context will, of course, be considered where appropriate; users who can make a well-evidenced and fact-based argument about some of the "milder" items on the list will usually be allowed to, if they stay clear of full-on bigotry. On the other hand, users who cram all of these things into one thread may attract close mod attention, including warnings and eventually bans.

Users are advised to familiarise themselves with WrongPlanet's rules before posting.

If you bothered to read my first posts, it clearly says “I am not an ethno-nationalist”.

Besides ethno-nationalism doesn’t necessarily mean racism, that’s your own opinion. As a moderator you are advised to READ the posts before locking them.

And yet you also said:

For the purposes of moderation, I don't care whether you identify as an ethno-nationalist. I care whether you say ethno-nationalist things. I'm not dealing with platonic ideals, I have no way of telling what you're like in real life, I'm dealing with the things people say on here.

Frankly saying you're not an ethno-nationalist while simultaneously advocating for ethnic purity is reminiscent of ""I am not Count Olaf" said Count Olaf".

In practice, that might have been something like how it used to work around here, but not anymore. I've seen several people get their threads locked purely for the opinions they expressed regardless of how politely and respectfully they conducted themselves. Sometimes I think it would be better to do away with the pretense of having a politics sub-forum altogether.

Ethno-nationalists believe in a 100% native racial population. At least know you’re talking about! I don’t need some jumped up Walrus acting holier than thou. Nothing I’ve said is offensive to normal, decent people. I don’t care how you feel.

See if anything there are fewer neoliberals than ever around here. They haven't declined quite as much as vanilla social conservatives but they've gone from being one of the dominant groups to hugely outnumbered.

There are libertarians but they aren't as dominant as they used to be.

I can only ever really remember one communist of any stripe being active, and he's still active.

There are many nationalists including ethnic nationalists. They have naturally learned not to express their more racist views (racism has always been against WrongPlanet rules and would always quickly result in a ban) but users like Mikah and Darmok post here relative unperturbed in much the same way that Tequila did (Tequila, incidentally, is not banned).

There are Assadists here. There are pro-lifers. There are civic nationalists.

It's possible we come down a bit quicker on homophobia (although AngelRho will probably tell you that Tallyman and Cornflake always came down on him too quickly for his liking) and we're certainly much better on transphobia.

These days I'd say the dominant groups are:
- vanilla social democrats
- alt-lite
- militant pacifists

It's true that there aren't as many "interesting characters" as there used to be, but PPR has gone from a place dominated by four fairly mild large groups (vanilla socdem, vanilla soccon, neoliberal, libertarian) with lots of eccentrics, to one dominated by three groups with three of the old dominant groups now being the eccentrics.

Thank you. They’re ganging up on me reporting me and accusing me of racism. I have a warning on my account. I came onto this site because I was depressed and seeking help. I got it from good individuals like yourself. I thought this was an inclusive website but now I want to leave.

I privately asked the OP to tell me his definition of racism. He responded by linking to a website that describes itself as "pro-European", and particularly an article on that site claiming that "racism" is a Trotskyist plot to silence white people.

Consequently, particularly given his attitude towards gentle moderation activities undertaken by myself and another moderator, I do not see any realistic prospect of him adjusting the content of his posts to obey WrongPlanet rules. I am going to lock this thread.

Anyone who wishes to discuss the meta-aspects of this thread may, of course, do so in WrongPlanet.net discussion, or in a dedicated thread. I'm sorry for raising them and then shutting down the discussion.

Anyone who is concerned about our handling of this situation is free to contact me in a PM, or post in WrongPlanet.net discussion, whichever they feel more comfortable with. I went out of my way to try and get Acteon to post within the forum rules but he was not willing to.