What do you hate most about your own country?

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10 Nov 2019, 6:08 pm

Maybe someday us Americans will know how the civilians we attack in other countries felt.

Yeah I know, that's such a terrible thing to say about my own country, and frankly I don't care.



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10 Nov 2019, 6:11 pm

I can imagine how they felt. And I don’t think it was fair.

I am all for abolishing all war.



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10 Nov 2019, 6:13 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I can imagine how they felt. And I don’t think it was fair.

I am all for abolishing all war.


I am too, but face it. Our country can't go a single day without fighting some stupid war in somebody else's country.



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10 Nov 2019, 7:01 pm

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I hate it that here violent criminals and sexual offenders get very light punishments. They're working on fixing the later a little bit, but still.


I understand, it's strange to me that in countries like Japan, Canada, or the UK a serial killer might actually get out of prison after serving less than 10 years. :|

Not sure where you obtain your facts but Japan executes multiple murderers by hanging. 9 juveniles have received the death penalty since 1966, 8 of them have been executed.



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10 Nov 2019, 7:08 pm

Shrapnel wrote:
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I hate it that here violent criminals and sexual offenders get very light punishments. They're working on fixing the later a little bit, but still.


I understand, it's strange to me that in countries like Japan, Canada, or the UK a serial killer might actually get out of prison after serving less than 10 years. :|

Not sure where you obtain your facts but Japan executes multiple murderers by hanging. 9 juveniles have received the death penalty since 1966, 8 of them have been executed.


Yes I'm aware that they have the death penalty AND they do a maximun of 10 years. Not every murderer gets a death sentence in that country.

I'm not a idiot. (And do NOT say you didn't say I was because I know you were thinking it! :evil: ) I do actually know some facts about Japan. :roll:



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10 Nov 2019, 7:20 pm

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I guess Americans should have the right to torture POWs and murder civilians because they are special or something.


Japan broke the contract with France and occupied Airfields. All we did was stop giving them oil because of it and THEY bombed Pearl Harbor. Damn... are you saying that we should've kept selling it to them so they could kill more people? You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Life doesn't become more precious simply because it's lost, en masse. It's either precious, or it isn't. Which is it? You sound like the people in the US who only get stirred up when a kid brings a gun to a school, but screw the poor kids in dangerous neighborhoods who get shot, one by one, by their neighbor.


They bombed a military base that wasn't even in the US. The US nukes 2 cities.


They attacked a part of the US ARMY. That's an act of war. The US nuked two cities after HOW LONG, John? Three friggin years, and they had a way out. But, they broke the treaty and occupied critical Indochina airfields. You're just like Twizty. You don't care how many people die as long as it's an orderly process. Load, fire, drop dead, repeat... As opposed to load, fire, all drop dead and no repeat. God forbid 300, 000 people all fall dead at once, instead of 3,000 a day for 100 days. :roll:


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10 Nov 2019, 7:35 pm

Persephone29 wrote:
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TW1ZTY wrote:
I guess Americans should have the right to torture POWs and murder civilians because they are special or something.


Japan broke the contract with France and occupied Airfields. All we did was stop giving them oil because of it and THEY bombed Pearl Harbor. Damn... are you saying that we should've kept selling it to them so they could kill more people? You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Life doesn't become more precious simply because it's lost, en masse. It's either precious, or it isn't. Which is it? You sound like the people in the US who only get stirred up when a kid brings a gun to a school, but screw the poor kids in dangerous neighborhoods who get shot, one by one, by their neighbor.


They bombed a military base that wasn't even in the US. The US nukes 2 cities.


They attacked a part of the US ARMY. That's an act of war. The US nuked two cities after HOW LONG, John? Three friggin years, and they had a way out. But, they broke the treaty and occupied critical Indochina airfields. You're just like Twizty. You don't care how many people die as long as it's an orderly process. Load, fire, drop dead, repeat... As opposed to load, fire, all drop dead and no repeat. God forbid 300, 000 people all fall dead at once, instead of 3,000 a day for 100 days. :roll:


How DARE you say I don't care if people die when you're the one who keeps defending the fact thst we nuked two cities! THAT DOES IT! Don't ever claim that you 'like' me outside of discussing politics ever again because now I know how you really feel about me! :evil:



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10 Nov 2019, 7:40 pm

^Wow, settle down, Beavis.



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10 Nov 2019, 7:53 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
JohnPowell wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
I guess Americans should have the right to torture POWs and murder civilians because they are special or something.


Japan broke the contract with France and occupied Airfields. All we did was stop giving them oil because of it and THEY bombed Pearl Harbor. Damn... are you saying that we should've kept selling it to them so they could kill more people? You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Life doesn't become more precious simply because it's lost, en masse. It's either precious, or it isn't. Which is it? You sound like the people in the US who only get stirred up when a kid brings a gun to a school, but screw the poor kids in dangerous neighborhoods who get shot, one by one, by their neighbor.


They bombed a military base that wasn't even in the US. The US nukes 2 cities.


They attacked a part of the US ARMY. That's an act of war. The US nuked two cities after HOW LONG, John? Three friggin years, and they had a way out. But, they broke the treaty and occupied critical Indochina airfields. You're just like Twizty. You don't care how many people die as long as it's an orderly process. Load, fire, drop dead, repeat... As opposed to load, fire, all drop dead and no repeat. God forbid 300, 000 people all fall dead at once, instead of 3,000 a day for 100 days. :roll:


How DARE you say I don't care if people die when you're the one who keeps defending the fact thst we nuked two cities! THAT DOES IT! Don't ever claim that you 'like' me outside of discussing politics ever again because now I know how you really feel about me! :evil:



DRAMA MAMA!


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10 Nov 2019, 7:54 pm

one nuke was necessary, two was too much (IIRC the japanese government was already moving to surrender before the second bomb dropped)


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10 Nov 2019, 7:55 pm

UncannyDanny wrote:
^Wow, settle down, Beavis.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Twizty and I have a love hate relationship. I love him, he hates me. :heart:


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10 Nov 2019, 7:59 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
one nuke was necessary, two was too much (IIRC the japanese government was already moving to surrender before the second bomb dropped)



I can believe that.

What I keep struggling with is why they kept dragging their feet on surrender, both times? They had 3 days between the two bombs. There were radios, telephones, morse code. They could have sent up smoke signals. But, nothing.


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11 Nov 2019, 4:44 am

Persephone29 wrote:
UncannyDanny wrote:
^Wow, settle down, Beavis.



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Twizty and I have a love hate relationship. I love him, he hates me. :heart:


That's cute. For someone so keen on holding people accountable for historical things, he does have a bit of an issue with learning from his own history, doesn't he?


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11 Nov 2019, 7:34 am

Yeah, I supposed you guys are right. Im such a silly drama queen and I have no right to hate my country when we do things like this.

Or this.



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11 Nov 2019, 7:38 am

Just don’t hate the average American who wouldn’t do this kind of thing. Who just mow their lawns or read tarot cards or whatever.



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11 Nov 2019, 7:39 am

And did I forget to mention these?

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