What do you hate most about your own country?

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Just the fact that the average American actually tolerates their government doing this sort of thing by always making excuses and then calling people like me a drama queen for being angry about it...

It's abuse of power in a war or conflict situation, and the commanding officers of many armies from many nations have been complicit in such abuses. I don't think these atrocities have the approval of the president, defence minister or even the general in charge of a sector. They are evil rogue elements and such things should always be investigated and action taken against those responsible. But if it happened a long time ago, such as WWII or the Vietnam War it's too long ago for retribution.

Many people seem to lose their humanity when hardened during times of sustained conflict, and appear to find difficulty retaining their moral compass. It's a breakdown of order like in Lord of the Flies when civilization's veneer is removed.

The culture is important to understand. Their emperor was literally God on earth. They were a high honor culture and it was retold many times that as American GI's were taking various islands the Japanese women and children would be jumping into the ocean to commit suicide rather than be taken captive.

Also I won't go into details, they're too gruesome, but lets just say they handled the mainland Chinese the way the Nazi's handled any group they found undesirable and had their own version of Mengele with Unit 731.

I would suspect that during that time, when they realized surrender was going to be a forced issue, all of those cultural gears were grinding against each other and hardly anyone could make a sane decision that they wouldn't be executed for.

Also Nanking.

Whenever something like this gets exposed on the news the 'average American' will act shocked for 10 minutes and then go back to their lives like nothing ever happened.

Nazis worked with the US on their space program after the war.

It wasn't the US. They stole it from the Natives and removed their King.

You did not address torture until this minute. You addressed the atomic bomb and Japan, then you listed shooting war criminals as punishment.

I am against torture. I think if we're going to kill someone it should be swift and merciful.

No one had to die. Japan had agreed to surrender and the US just did the same deal with them after the nukes were dropped that Japan wanted before the bombing. It is beyond sick what you are defending.

B.S. They had agreed to surrender before the first bomb.

What exactly is going on in this picture?

What do you do, Twizty? Do you crash your car through the walls to stop it?
What am I supposed to do? I'm against torture.

How? Where's the document? I would like to read it. Can you tell me where it's located? It's part of history, it should be available to the public.

John, I dislike you. Therefore, I do not give two s**ts what you think of me. I actually like Twizty, even though he hates me. Anything I say to you is relegated to boredom. Go join the Palestinians as see how that works out for you.

Yeah.....we have lives to live. And so do you.

Are you going to live in a state of anger about with Americans because of what a few Americans do? I find that ridiculous.

I was molested by a gay man once.....does that make me angry at all gay men because of that?

I'm a Jew. 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the Holocaust by the Nazis. Should I be angry at all Germans because of that?

I never tortured anybody in my life. And I'm not for torture now. I believe in the Geneva Convention.

What we have to do....is seek to prevent this sort of thing in the future.

Have you ever seen films of the Holocaust? I feel like if you did, they would be instructive. The Americans, the Russians, and all the Allies stopped the Holocaust in 1945.

You being angry at all Americans because of what you posted-----is like me being mad at all Germans because of the Holocaust films.

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[quote="Persephone29"][quote="TW1ZTY"]
Whenever something like this gets exposed on the news the 'average American' will act shocked for 10 minutes and then go back to their lives like nothing ever happened.[/quo


So I'm supposed to just keep quiet about the many atrocious things our country has done because I myself can't drive a car through a wall to stop it? Because I'm such a 'drama queen' and it inconviences people like you who don't want to admit to themselves how truly powerless they really are in this so-called "Land of the Free"?

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I never said you should "keep quiet."

All I said is not to blame all Americans for the actions of a few.