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05 Jan 2020, 12:09 am

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Pornography is to today's America what Vodka was to the Soviet Union.



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05 Jan 2020, 2:08 pm

Yeah. I'm anti-pornography but I also realize that it's probably like alcohol in that banning it won't get rid of it. Instead we need to educate kids on why it's harmful to them and their partners.


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06 Jan 2020, 12:49 am

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Yeah. I'm anti-pornography but I also realize that it's probably like alcohol in that banning it won't get rid of it. Instead we need to educate kids on why it's harmful to them and their partners.

That is an interesting idea, in theory. But would it work? I wonder!



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06 Jan 2020, 9:08 am

Metal Rat wrote:
Whale_Tuune wrote:
Yeah. I'm anti-pornography but I also realize that it's probably like alcohol in that banning it won't get rid of it. Instead we need to educate kids on why it's harmful to them and their partners.

That is an interesting idea, in theory. But would it work? I wonder!


I think it would work depending on the people. I didn't know what porn looked like for most of my life (super isolated) but by the time I was able to access the internet I was not interested in findingout because I associated the word "pornography" with exploitation of women. Even old-school pinup pictures gave me the creeps, which might have been overdoing it but Aspie brains are very much black and white.

But hey, girls don't seem to mind!


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06 Jan 2020, 9:59 am

Porn is not inherently evil. Sure there can be exploitation, but you can say that about many jobs within capitalism. I don't think there is anything wrong as long as there is regulation against the truly exploitive stuff, done only by those who can give consent, and I think that it be made clear how much of it is a fantasy. We have movies that involve gunfights and all other sorts of violent things, but they don't inherently make people violent, I think porn can work the same way, better so if we are not being all weird at making it all taboo and trying to ban it. Similar thoughts to what I think of the sex industry in general.


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06 Jan 2020, 10:28 am

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Porn is not inherently evil. Sure there can be exploitation, but you can say that about many jobs within capitalism. I don't think there is anything wrong as long as there is regulation against the truly exploitive stuff, done only by those who can give consent, and I think that it be made clear how much of it is a fantasy. We have movies that involve gunfights and all other sorts of violent things, but they don't inherently make people violent, I think porn can work the same way, better so if we are not being all weird at making it all taboo and trying to ban it. Similar thoughts to what I think of the sex industry in general.

Still, one must admit, there is too much of it.



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06 Jan 2020, 11:01 am

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Still, one must admit, there is too much of it.


Too much of what, porn?

Is it actually hurting you? It is a market, lots of people have different kinks, and it if it is not hurting anyone, there is no problem with a lot. As it stands I think there is too little with certain kinks that I am into and want to see. Don't know how much detail you want, but enjoy a good deal of new and varied drawn erotica, whether on a hot new ip, or a comic that even has a story that scratches as an itch I never knew I had.

Just because you find it needless, doesn't mean you get to be a moral authority on whether people get to enjoy the variety. I think that there is too much sport, and think it is needless to watch any of it, not like I am going to try and reduce the sports industry.


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06 Jan 2020, 11:21 am

I think the problem with many people is that they love to address the symptoms of a problem, but fail to address the source of the problem. Pornography is a symptom of a problem, not the source of problems.

For example, Homeless people and beggars are a symptom of a problem with society, not the source of problems with society. Giving all homeless people homes will not stop people from becoming homeless. (If they ended up on the streets due to drugs, they're going to end up back on the streets even if you try to give them money or a home.)

Drugs are a problem, but building a wall is not going to stop people from buying drugs, you can't stop drugs from flowing into the country, people will find other ways to get their drugs. Find out why they buy drugs and then address that, don't demonize drug addicts or drugs.

Illegal immigrants are a problem, nope, they are a symptom of a problem, the source of the problem is all the employers that refuse to hire Americans, so they hire immigrants, yet it is the immigrant who is demonized.

Pornography is great, as a reflective tool for society and judging what is wrong with it (also for fun, if you consume responsibly), wow all those pornographic ads that yell TEEN, YOUNG, CHEATING, obviously, there are some customers out there that should be carefully watched. If law enforcement could more easily track what kind of porn a man (or a woman) consumes, maybe we could identify problems before they become actual problems, (all the talk about privacy is kinda moot at least in America, due to the Patriot Act)

Instead of just outright banning it or telling everyone not to do it, maybe wonder why pornography has so much disturbing stuff, why is it popular. It doesn't fix problems if you only treat the symptoms. It's like taking aspirin for a headache, sure things will feel better, but nothing's actually been fixed.


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06 Jan 2020, 3:54 pm

Metal Rat wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Porn is not inherently evil. Sure there can be exploitation, but you can say that about many jobs within capitalism. I don't think there is anything wrong as long as there is regulation against the truly exploitive stuff, done only by those who can give consent, and I think that it be made clear how much of it is a fantasy. We have movies that involve gunfights and all other sorts of violent things, but they don't inherently make people violent, I think porn can work the same way, better so if we are not being all weird at making it all taboo and trying to ban it. Similar thoughts to what I think of the sex industry in general.

Still, one must admit, there is too much of it.


'Too much content' is a problem that all streaming video services share, it's not limited to porn. People get overwhelmed by how much content is available (whether porn or other streaming video) and tend to spend more time deciding than they do actually enjoying watching content.

Certainly that's been a big role in why anytime I Ctrl+Shift+P I end up closing the window before even loading a site.


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