Antifa to be Declared a Terrorist Organization (Finally!)

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31 May 2020, 5:48 pm

Resisting fascism will remain a moral obligation no matter how badly this enrages Loser Donald or his cult of reactionary nationalists.

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31 May 2020, 6:04 pm

The_Walrus wrote:

For starters this is a pretty transparent attempt to distract from Trump's own failings on coronavirus and race relations.

More importantly it's a flagrant abuse of power. Only fascists believe that antifascists are terrorists. Has antifa killed anyone? Has antifa committed or planned any acts of terror? No.

Not only is antifa not a terrorist organisation, it's not an organisation at all. It's an ideology which 95% of Americans identify with to one extent or another.

This is full mask-off fascism from Trump. It's a breach of Americans' constitutional right to oppose the government. It's disgusting and it's evil and it's corrupt. It isn't going to stop Trump from losing the election and it isn't going to keep him out of prison.

Fortunately, the justice system in America does not allow the President to label an ideology as "terrorist", nor does it allow him to formally label domestic organisations as terrorist.

This is nothing more or less than an attempt to distract from the issues at hand and fire up the 5% of Americans who support fascism.

We're in agreement.

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31 May 2020, 6:25 pm

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And nazies were socialists for the poor and working class.

The Nazis were fascists that coopted a socialist workers party as a smokescreen for pollical power, and actually killed all of its socialist members once they had enough power. Antifa does not even have a leadership structure that allow for a goal other than its stated one of being against fascism.

I agree that it has some bad optics in regards to violence, and probably scare people due to crowds of people wearing bandanas as masks. That as a group/ideology of people of frustrated people without leaders, you are going to have some young people that go a bit far with property damage. But what has Antifa even done tp earn itself be called a terrorist organization.

So what, they can just charge some random young adult now as a terrorist because they said they were part of Antifa, against fascists, but never done anything violent?

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31 May 2020, 7:19 pm

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Anarchy is the same as terror--but when a government goes evil, then that evil element is also terror. The three cops who didn't choke George Floyd are as part of his death as the one who did, but the cops in Flint who joined a *peaceful* protest (no looting that Ive heard of yet) are probably doing a great job upholding public peace by that action there.

Yes, I think Antifa being labeled terrorists is a good thing. Now we can please start on anyone else who seeks to hold power through intimidation, socialists or republicans alike. I don't care if it's Antifa or the cops. Same difference in this case. There is no "good side" but there are good individuals, though for the last few weeks there sure aren't many of the good ones making the news.

Well said!

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31 May 2020, 7:21 pm

Darmok wrote:

It's about time.

Antifa = Mao's Red Guard = Hilter's Sturmabteilung = Democrats' Ku Klux Klan = Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge

Your math is wrong

If you don't want antifa, you can stop being a fascist.
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If you don't want Hitler's Sturmabteilung or the Klan, you can always stop being non-white.
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See the difference?

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31 May 2020, 7:25 pm

Borromeo wrote:

[...]. There is no "good side" but there are good individuals [...].

But there is a "bad side": it's where the fascists are.
There are "good individuals" - and bad ones. Not all bad individuals are fascists.
But all fascists are bad individuals.

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31 May 2020, 7:26 pm

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Just like CoViD-19 is only the flu, social network providers will be silenced, and Hillary Clinton is going to jail.

It's all fake news.

:roll:

More BS comes out of Trump's mouth than from the back end of a bull!

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31 May 2020, 7:26 pm

Antifa arose in response to the election of Trump. I wasn't aware of their existence before?

Trump inspired the rise of the alt-right and their tikki torch parades and destruction of Charlottesville.,

He hired a known fascist Steve Bannon as his chief strategist.

He's been stoking the fires with his rhetoric about muslims and Mexicans....not rocket science

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31 May 2020, 7:31 pm

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Resisting fascism will remain a moral obligation no matter how badly this enrages Loser Donald or his cult of reactionary nationalists.

Resisting fascism? Most of these idiots get their asses handed to them. Not very good warriors if you ask me.

If they want to get up in people's faces, maybe they should learn how to fight...take a martial arts course of something.

Or, perhaps, they should do something a bit more constructive, like participating in a circle jerk.

Honestly, Antifa occupies the flip side of the coin with the fascist morons.

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31 May 2020, 8:00 pm

Vandalism of veterans' monuments and other landmarks in Washington.

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31 May 2020, 8:01 pm

VegetableMan wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

Resisting fascism will remain a moral obligation no matter how badly this enrages Loser Donald or his cult of reactionary nationalists.

For some (most), I think "membership" also acts as a "cover" under which they can feel free to act on their baser instincts to commit violence\riot\steal, while being able to claim they are doing this for a greater "good"...It's not the organisation and what it stands for (to them) as much as the ability to do what they want to do but which they are normally prevented from doing.

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31 May 2020, 8:58 pm

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I am confused, are you saying that Antifa are poor fighters, and thus should be more trained to be a more effective army or something? That would actually make them the type of terrorist army that they are implied to be? If armed it is probably something like a baseball bat, they are not becoming organized groups that go in with guns and take over government buildings to terrorize them into lifting stay at home sanctions during a pandemic because they think it is all a hoax.

Anti-fascism is not a flip side that is equal to fascism, because fascists actually squirm their way into power and create far reaching impacts that can violently get people killed. Anti fascists are literally up against people who model themselves off of Nazis, who were called fine people by a president that played on fears of minority groups and foreigners, just like Hitler did, and similarly calls all press that does not report things the way he wants the fake news/lying press. Pushing narratives that any protest he does not agree with, especially non-violent, is anti-American, been openly fighting to supress voting, and then act surprised when opposition is violent.

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31 May 2020, 9:13 pm

Darmok is too far down the disinformation schill rabbit hole to be reached. Can the mods PLEASE put a stop to this obnoxious propaganda neatly? Obviously blaming anarchists for police committing vehicular assault is a sh***y move.

I'm not an anarchist but I have no respect left over for our pathetically ignorant, backwards law "enforcement".

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31 May 2020, 9:14 pm

Darmok wrote:

Vandalism of veterans' monuments and other landmarks in Washington.

Police brutalizing human beings everywhere.

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31 May 2020, 9:16 pm

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You want them to censure people you disagree with?

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