TheRobotLives wrote:
First, Socialism + NAZI + White Supremicist is a common combination ..,,
National Socialist Movement
"The Party claimed to be the "largest and most active" National Socialist organization in the United States"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)They preach confiscation and nationalization.
Take from people and give to other people, most likely themselves.
They are different varieties of Socialism.
Alt-right is the one paired with nationalism.
Socialists Chavez, Fidel Castro they preached confiscation and nationalization.
That's why people join these organization, because these groups promise to elevate their members by taking from others.
This is the ALT RIGHT .. a bunch of socialists.Of course there are nationalist socialists. They don't believe in redistribution because they hate inequality, they believe in redistribution bc they want to make things
more unequal. Equality before the law, healthcare, education, social security, community care and cooperation....but only if you're white/Aryan/whatever. Everyone else is subordinate. National socialism can be thought of more as redistributionist nationalism (or just as an oxymoron). The NSDAP was socialist in name only. You did
not want to be a self-identified socialist under their rule. Those
National-Sozialisten who put more emphasis on the
Sozialist than on the
Nationalist, the Straßerites, were killed en masse during the Night of the Long Knives for this reason. Hitler wanted to make it extremely clear that advocating even socialist-flavored nationalism was not going to be tolerated.
Socialism for the vast,
vast majority of socialists is not about taking everything from non-socialists for the exclusive benefit of socialists. If I see someone who is being exploited at work, unable to afford healthcare, homeless, etc, I don't care if they're capitalist. I care more that their basic needs are not being met. I would rather feed starving capitalists than live in a system that lets them starve.
Socialism does not have an ideological monopoly on nationalization of industry/business. Capitalist countries all over the world have nationalized sectors to varying degrees, and obviously not with redistributive socialism in mind. Socialists in Latin America were especially keen on nationalizing eg: the oil sector, bc before they did they were controlled by exploitative foreign firms who would use their wealth to (often violently) undermine democracy and organized labor when it benefited their pocketbooks. Not to mention that the US and countries in Europe are no strangers to nationalizing businesses for their own reasons.
I've noticed how much conversations about the alt-right devolve into bickering over labels and semantics. It doesn't help that "alt-right" does not seem to be used much as a self-descriptor by those right-wingers usually associated with the term. Its very hard to make ideological generalizations about the alt right in general bc it's a catch-all for members of (ironically) rather diverse right-wing ideologies. You have Christian extremists, neo-nazis, neo-confederates, futurists, Constitutional extremists, accelerationists, authoritarian transhumanists, (some) anarcho-capitalists, white separatists, anti-Masonics, monarchists, ecofascists, etc. Obviously there is a lot of overlap, and a
lot of bitter disagreement among these groups. Not all of the people who hold those above beliefs are alt-right, and might not be considered alt-right by others. The common threads for groups labeled alt-right seem to mostly just be a tendency to congregate online, and reactionary right-wing ideology.
05 Jul 2020, 5:33 am
