Why people with ASD / Autism / AS should not be a neo nazi

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26 Oct 2020, 9:18 pm

You're pointing the finger at an angry mob we don't even associate with. Stop blindly associating people you don't understand with violence.


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26 Oct 2020, 9:22 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
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Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.


A target for what?


Criticism from leftists. :wink:


Oh No...isn't that just the worst that the whole 'f**k your feelings' crowd is now butthurt that people won't respect their feelings. It brings tears to my eyes just thinking of this terrible injustice.....lol


I'll let you call me a Nazi,
If you let me call you a left-wing fascist.
Deal? :mrgreen:


I don't think you are a nazi...and I mean you can call me a left wing extremist if you want, but not left-wing fascist because f**k fascism. Id defend your right to say Biden is trash even though I would totally disagree.


I don't see Biden as trash.
Heck, I don't even know what he stands for.

He is showing signs of growing dementia, so my best guess is he will be replaced with someone heavily on the left side of politics, sooner rather than later.

I am a moderate conservative *independent*.
I am not partisan in nature.
Please don't Pidgeon-hole me. :wink:



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26 Oct 2020, 9:25 pm

cberg wrote:
You're pointing the finger at an angry mob we don't even associate with. Stop blindly associating people you don't understand with violence.


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In fact, Antifa has become fascist themselves-adopting whole-heartedly the tactics of confrontation, bullying, and street violence that were the hallmarks of Hitler’s Brown Shirts. Seeing the similarities between Kristallnacht (1938) and today’s organized riots is chilling. https://www.lockhaven.com/opinion/lette ... -ideology/



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26 Oct 2020, 9:35 pm

WTF man whomever said WP liberals = antifa? :roll:


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26 Oct 2020, 9:36 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.


A target for what?


Criticism from leftists. :wink:


Not criticisms.
Insults. 8)

Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists. 8O
Oh, my. :mrgreen:

Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.


Apparently we're not allowed to describe those who openly sympathize with fascists or white nationalists as 'fascist sympathizers' because that fact hurts their feelings. Remember when a few of those people tried to have me banned because this issue? :lol:


If one is a fascist sympathiser, doesn't that make one a fascist? :scratch:

BTW,
There are no fascist sympathisers here, would you agree?
So, on this forum, no feelings would be hurt, right? :scratch:
Where do the hurt feelings come into this particular discussion? :scratch:

BTW,
I didn't try to ban you.
I simply wanted you to stop equating conservatives with Nazis. 8)


There most certainly have been posters here who have openly expressed their support for white nationalist groups. There most certainly have been posters here who have openly expressed their support for fascist ideology.

I have never at any time equated all conservatives or the entire right with fascists or Nazis. You're simply lying when you claim this and this is the last time I will address this matter.


OK, so you say I am a liar. 8O
Got it. ;)
Others may have said I was mistaken. 8)



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26 Oct 2020, 9:39 pm

The right wing on here generalizes us so much that I'm not sure they know any other way to think.


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26 Oct 2020, 9:42 pm

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Oh, by “here” I meant the United States. Not Wrong Planet. I have no idea about this website.


Yeah, we confused ourselves.
Don't worry about it. ;)



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26 Oct 2020, 9:45 pm

Just because we're sick and tired of fascism doesn't mean we react violently, your determination to get the last word on denial of fascism is very telling.

Fascism straight up kills & detains indefinitely, rioters just riot.


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26 Oct 2020, 9:58 pm

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Just because we're sick and tired of fascism doesn't mean we react violently, your determination to get the last word on denial of fascism is very telling.

Fascism straight up kills & detains indefinitely, rioters just riot.


What the hell are you saying? :scratch:
Who is denying fascism? :scratch:
And what the heck is "very telling"? :scratch:

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26 Oct 2020, 10:20 pm

You only ever link us to "dangerous" leftist violence, the fact is that the extreme right in the U.S. is the faction that's killing people.


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27 Oct 2020, 1:12 am

Pepe wrote:
cberg wrote:
You're pointing the finger at an angry mob we don't even associate with. Stop blindly associating people you don't understand with violence.


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In fact, Antifa has become fascist themselves-adopting whole-heartedly the tactics of confrontation, bullying, and street violence that were the hallmarks of Hitler’s Brown Shirts. Seeing the similarities between Kristallnacht (1938) and today’s organized riots is chilling. https://www.lockhaven.com/opinion/lette ... -ideology/


I’m not sure an opinion piece in a local paper from a small town in rural Pennsylvania counts as a legitimate source on the actual “dangers” of antifa.



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27 Oct 2020, 1:59 am

I am struggling to see how Antifa is fascist when their name means anti-fascist?



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27 Oct 2020, 2:39 am

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I am struggling to see how Antifa is fascist when their name means anti-fascist?


The argument seems to be that while they call themselves "antifascist", it's just a lie / ruse to trick you so you don't realize they are actually fascists themselves.

The irony is, this argument can apparently grasp the concept that people can intentionally mis-represent or outright lie about who they are in order to mislead people, yet completely ignores the possibility that those that DO commit acts of fascism "in the name of antifa", could just as easily be the ones misrepresenting themselves in order to sabotage the legitimacy of the movement (provocateurs), or are simply wearing the badge in order to suit their own agenda (opportunists).



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27 Oct 2020, 3:21 am

As if the American left has no respect for the law. Same goes for the actual American right. :roll:

I think many posters here have been indoctrinated by partisan "news" sources they consider gospel.

Fascism is a problem; no one is fighting to take your guns, or anyone's, go the f home & then there are no problems...?


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27 Oct 2020, 3:26 am

And here's the data
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ing-antifa
https://www.businessinsider.com/right-w ... ?r=AU&IR=T

Since 1994 the number of people killed in the US by

Antifa : 0
Right wing extremists : 329

I guess no prizes for guessing who is more dangerous :roll:



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27 Oct 2020, 4:14 am

cyberdad wrote:
And here's the data
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ing-antifa
https://www.businessinsider.com/right-w ... ?r=AU&IR=T

Since 1994 the number of people killed in the US by

Antifa : 0
Right wing extremists : 329

I guess no prizes for guessing who is more dangerous:roll:

That extreme right is more lethal is just a demonstration that their views hold no sway in most of academia, media, and corporate America. Try and get a job being openly fascist, not happening. Try getting a job where you advocate for suppressing speech leftists do not like, toppling statues, etc and in some influential places you will eagerly be hired. Let's Look at this another way I am in slight danger of being killed by right-wing extremists for being Jewish and if I publically call them out. I am I somewhat more in danger of being fired, beat up, vandalized, doxxed, gaslighted as a racist if I publicly oppose them. Why should I have to "pick my poison"?. Why should calling out Antifa be dismissed because the far right is really bad also? Both groups are a threat to the ideals of free speech and elected governments.


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