17 Jan 2021, 6:19 pm
uncommondenominator wrote:
Pepe wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Well, I could just be a partisan and irrational person who lacks critical thinking skills, but I find that people who have a constant need to brag about their non-partisanship, rationality and critical thinking skills are often quite partisan and irrational persons who lacks critical thinking skills.
All talk but no substance.
I actually point out how others seem to have a partisan mindset, rather than brag about my greater objectivity.
A person with a partisan mindset doesn't:
-Admit there is wrong on both sides.
-Admit that there are good policies on either side.
-Consider the situation holistically.
Your argument is invalid.
The "Orrukal of Troofths" says he doesn't brag about his "greater objectivity"
SURE...
So, pointing out The truth is bragging, in your book?
Interesting.
17 Jan 2021, 6:24 pm
roronoa79 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
slam_thunderhide wrote:
The attack on civil liberties that you first saw with the Patriot Act 20 years ago is now going to be ramped up even further with the hysteria about "domestic terrorists",
I think this is a legitimate concern. While domestic terrorism is no triviality, current legislation should be largely adequate for dealing with the threat. Politicians often have very poor understanding of technological issues in particular and history shows us that they often pass laws with little understanding of their implications.
There is often a failure among lawmakers to consider issues holistically. It would be a crying shame if, perhaps less than a year after the George Floyd protests, anti-terror legislation is passed which grants sweeping new powers to law enforcement - it doesn’t take a genius to guess who the likely victims will be.
Perhaps the victims will be the white supremacists who have infiltrated law enforcement agencies all over America & then advanced to becoming domestic terrorists and their sympathizers?
You mean those people? 
So you’re claiming:
- the police are full of white supremacists
- if we give the police more power, they’ll use it to stop white supremacists
Is that right?
I think it’s much more likely that giving the police more power will disproportionately target the people who have always been the victims of the police state:
- ethnic minorities
- immigrants
- homeless people
- poor people
American police, as well as Canadian, ARE full of white supremacists. Canada’s national police force was literally formed to fight/kill Indigenous people, America’s to round up slaves. Culture carries on.
Not just give them more power and let them do what they want with it. Direct them to investigate their own & deal with their internal problems vs perpetuate the old boys club. Total daydream, but just sayin.
Infiltration of local law enforcement has been an integral strategy for white supremacists in the US for about as long as there have been white supremacists. White supremacists were the de jure police in the segregation south and beyond. That didn't vanish with the end of segregation. There were notable surges in this infiltration in the 90's, after Obama was elected, and after Trump was elected.
FBI Intelligence Assessment on the White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement from 2006
2017 article on FBI Counterterrorism Guide's acknowledgement of widespread police infiltration by right-wing extremists
That sounds reasonable to me.
A similar strategy of infiltration, by the left, happened in academia.
America has huge social problems from my POV.
Much worse than what is happening in Australia.
Not boasting.
Just my POV.
17 Jan 2021, 7:35 pm
17 Jan 2021, 7:55 pm
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
@Pepe part of the reason I’m not interested in wasting time quoting and explaining your own posts to you is that my only internet connected device for the last couple years is my iPhone. It’s annoying quoting massively long posts and scrolling up and down to respond to each paragraph, and even more annoying to try to break them up into multiple quoted posts. I have plenty of other things to do than that with my time. Go find the post where I pointed it out and click back 2-3 pages and re-read your own posts. You can do it!
But you do agree that is it is wrong to accuse someone of something and not supply a valid reason for that accusation, right?
Skip the quotes, then, and re-read where you think I have been a racist and paraphrase.
I find being called a racist extremely triggering, if I let it, because I was psychologically abused by a German hating racist teacher when I was 4 years of age.
That teacher caused my dissociative disorder and essentially destroyed my life, disallowing any degree of normalcy.
If I am being called a racist, I want to know why.
We do have a precedence with the "Pepe verses FuneralxEmpire" case.
"Someone can be called a fascist, but *only* if there is a valid argument to do so."
Being called a 'racist' is worse than being called a fascist, in my book, even without the triggering aspect for me.
If someone doesn't have a valid argument, doing so is a personal attack and is against The Wrong Planet rulz.
I didn't see anywhere where you were called racist, show us the quote where you got called racist.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
17 Jan 2021, 8:55 pm
League_Girl wrote:
I didn't see anywhere where you were called racist, show us the quote where you got called racist.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
Here's one:
goldfish21 wrote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
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17 Jan 2021, 9:26 pm
Pepe wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
@Pepe part of the reason I’m not interested in wasting time quoting and explaining your own posts to you is that my only internet connected device for the last couple years is my iPhone. It’s annoying quoting massively long posts and scrolling up and down to respond to each paragraph, and even more annoying to try to break them up into multiple quoted posts. I have plenty of other things to do than that with my time. Go find the post where I pointed it out and click back 2-3 pages and re-read your own posts. You can do it!
But you do agree that is it is wrong to accuse someone of something and not supply a valid reason for that accusation, right?
Skip the quotes, then, and re-read where you think I have been a racist and paraphrase.
I find being called a racist extremely triggering, if I let it, because I was psychologically abused by a German hating racist teacher when I was 4 years of age.
That teacher caused my dissociative disorder and essentially destroyed my life, disallowing any degree of normalcy.
If I am being called a racist, I want to know why.
We do have a precedence with the "Pepe verses FuneralxEmpire" case.
"Someone can be called a fascist, but *only* if there is a valid argument to do so."
Being called a 'racist' is worse than being called a fascist, in my book, even without the triggering aspect for me.
If someone doesn't have a valid argument, doing so is a personal attack and is against The Wrong Planet rulz.
Go read your own posts from the few pages before I mentioned it, Fnord seconded it, and Cornflake chimed in to say the mods had in fact noticed. I wasn’t fabricating or imagining things. Your posts give off a “I’m A-okay with white privilege & darkies have nothing to complain about because everything is fine,” kind of vibe.
If that’s not the way you think and not the way you want to come across, then perhaps consider changing how you phrase things & which things you support and which things you discount.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.17 Jan 2021, 10:05 pm
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I didn't see anywhere where you were called racist, show us the quote where you got called racist.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
Here's one:
goldfish21 wrote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
I must be reading a different quote on my end because I can't see where he was called a racist. All I see is this quote you showed me:
Quote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
Where is the "you are racist" line?
17 Jan 2021, 10:30 pm
17 Jan 2021, 10:44 pm
17 Jan 2021, 10:50 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I didn't see anywhere where you were called racist, show us the quote where you got called racist.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
Here's one:
goldfish21 wrote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
I must be reading a different quote on my end because I can't see where he was called a racist. All I see is this quote you showed me:
Quote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
Where is the "you are racist" line?
Oh so the actual word "racist" has to be used. People make what are called passive aggressive remarks. That is saying something in a subtle rather than direct way.
17 Jan 2021, 10:59 pm
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I didn't see anywhere where you were called racist, show us the quote where you got called racist.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
Here's one:
goldfish21 wrote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
I must be reading a different quote on my end because I can't see where he was called a racist. All I see is this quote you showed me:
Quote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
Where is the "you are racist" line?
Oh so the actual word "racist" has to be used. People make what are called passive aggressive remarks. That is saying something in a subtle rather than direct way.
People here are allowed to think someone is racist but not say it or else they are getting in trouble for a thought crime here. It's made clear here we are allowed to think these things but not say it just like you are allowed to think of me as a b***h without calling me one. It would be up for me to decide what your thoughts are and pretend I can read your mind so I can take offense. This is what NTs often to in society with each other. Autistic people are not immune to this either.
17 Jan 2021, 11:06 pm
17 Jan 2021, 11:09 pm
Tempus Fugit wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Some seem pretty dedicated in trying to get even more people to leave WP.
As opposed to reporting members to the mods in order to get them banned because they "feel" triggered?
Oh so I can get you banned just by reporting you? Is that how it works? Me reporting something has the same effect as a mod pushing the ban button? And all only based on my personal feelings? Wow I didn't know I had that kind of power at my disposal.
Not saying names but historically those who practice this form of subterfuge find themselves on the receiving end.
Just some friendly advice
17 Jan 2021, 11:15 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I didn't see anywhere where you were called racist, show us the quote where you got called racist.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
I am dead serious here because I am using your logic.
Here's one:
goldfish21 wrote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
I must be reading a different quote on my end because I can't see where he was called a racist. All I see is this quote you showed me:
Quote:
A summation of Pepe’s politics over the last couple pages = he’s coming across a little too “white privilege is just fine with me,” and “the coloured folk in America have nothing to complain about,” for my personal liking.
Where is the "you are racist" line?
Oh so the actual word "racist" has to be used. People make what are called passive aggressive remarks. That is saying something in a subtle rather than direct way.
People here are allowed to think someone is racist but not say it or else they are getting in trouble for a thought crime here. It's made clear here we are allowed to think these things but not say it just like you are allowed to think of me as a b***h without calling me one. It would be up for me to decide what your thoughts are and pretend I can read your mind so I can take offense. This is what NTs often to in society with each other. Autistic people are not immune to this either.
Written words are not thoughts kept in someone's head. Reading someone's written words is not mind reading.
I think you're well aware a certain group here puts a lot of effort in trying to muscle people off this forum. And that they've been pretty successful at it. They even brag about it, so there's no sense in pretending it doesn't happen.
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17 Jan 2021, 11:49 pm
Who does that? Only one I can think of that used to do that was EzraS - but even he isn’t a personality I’d want gone.
Personally, there are only a few people who I would’ve liked to have seen go.
Bea Arthur is straight up rude to me with the insults she’s posted towards me. Don’t care for her personality. Wouldn’t mind if she left. She did for a while and doesn’t post much so whatever, pretty easy to ignore her when she’s around.
Sly279’s negativity (And politics) isn’t missed.
Marknis used to be very difficult. Not any more! He’s a mellow fellow now. Rather see him stay than go.
Other than that, whatever. There’s some bickering but that’s to be expected - almost everyone is autistic.
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cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Tempus Fugit wrote:
Some seem pretty dedicated in trying to get even more people to leave WP.
As opposed to reporting members to the mods in order to get them banned because they "feel" triggered?
Oh so I can get you banned just by reporting you? Is that how it works? Me reporting something has the same effect as a mod pushing the ban button? And all only based on my personal feelings? Wow I didn't know I had that kind of power at my disposal.
Not saying names but historically those who practice this form of subterfuge find themselves on the receiving end.
You're obviosly talking about this report I made: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=391105&start=64#p8672197
cyberdad wrote:
Just some friendly advice
And now you're obviously trying to intimidate me.
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