Are there any post coup attempt EX-trump supporters here?

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I haven’t seen any of this and don’t know who this group is comprised of. Must have happened during the times I wasn’t on the forums regularly, or in threads that didn’t interest me and so I never read them.

Would you say that someone who accepts/embraces the values of white supremacist racists is a racist?
I do.
I don't embrace white supremacist ideology, therefore, the argument is 'fishy' to me. Goldfishy, actually.
His argument has no validity, since I have never supported his claim that I am OK with racism.

He has repeatedly refused to supply anything which I have written that is credibly racist.
Until he does, I have no option other than to think he has nothing to produce.

Seriously, how hard is it to retype something I said that will support his POV that I support white supremacy and suggest the colour population should 'suck it up'. [paraphrasing]

What Goldfish and Fnord are doing is actually character assassination.
They will not provide 'evidence' to support that personal attack against me, since they can't.
There isn't any.
Their accusations are false and they should 'cease and desist'.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_assassination

What is this nonsense? Make a statement and then immediately post that if you disagree it shouldn’t be mentioned or discussed. Yeah, not partisan at all. That’s not how discussion works. You, nor I, can express a strong opinion and then tell others they can’t disagree or respond. Get real.

I’m all for liberal values of respecting people of all walks of life & supporting everyone in a civilized society being taught in higher education. Why on earth would I want conservative values of unfettered capitalism, climate change denial, and the upholding of systemic racism to be taught instead of progressive values that embrace science, diversity, and a sense of unity?

Myself Fnord and Cornflake aren’t all suffering from some sort of group delusion.

Like I said, go to my post. Click back 3 pages. Then read all of your posts on those pages. Shouldn’t be difficult to figure out why we got that sense from you - especially if you are looking for it through that particular filter.

Honestly I don't believe anything I hear about others unless there is proof. Show me screen shots of their posts, urls to their posts, anything and I can decide for myself. People can twist and interpret anything different than what was written. If someone insists another user online is racist, I am not going to blindly believe it unless I read their content or watch their stuff and I can see for myself. That goes for others saying another user is a troll. If I think anything of someone, it is because I had read their posts or watched their videos or listened to their speeches and I formed that opinion of my own. Not because the media said so or because other people said so or because people decided to make videos about a person on youtube and mock or criticize them

I used to be like you where I would get upset what others thought of me or worry what they might be thinking of me and then I realized it doesn't matter what they think and it's not like others are going to blindly believe them what they say about me. If someone accuses me of something untrue, it doesn't mean others on the forum are going to believe it. Once I realized this, I am able to move on and not get into internet drama.

It's been going on in this very thread.

Fnord just parroted agreement.
I didn't see anything to suggest Cornflake thinks I embrace/accept white privilege/supremacy or that those of colour should be find with that.



You fallaciously assume your statement is correct.
It is not.
You can't produce a single example to make your point.

Once again, provide 'evidence' of my poor choice of wording.
Why is it so difficult?
Your refusal speaks volumes.

N.B.
If it *was* simply a poor choice of wording on my part, that does not justify your accusations of me being OK with white privilege/superiority.

Your accusation is evolving into something else.
Are you aware of this?

It seems you have misunderstood my original intent.
I am not convinced that is *my* problem.
I believe it is *yours*.

I am not upset partly because Goldfish is actually on the back foot here.
I am also not upset because we seem to have an even playing field.
What makes you think I am 'upset'?



So, if I start misrepresenting you, suggesting you are a racist, without evidence to support that claim, you will be fine with that?
If so, you are very forgiving.
I am not.

I have already addressed why it is difficult and why I’m not going to do it. It has nothing to do with there not being examples to cite and explain to you. It has everything to do with your posts being miles long and the only device I have to access the internet with being a smartphone. That’s why I told you when asked, repeatedly might I add, to go re-read your own posts from the few pages before the post I made pointing these things out. In the time you’ve whined that I won’t go scroll up and down on my phone for an hour or two for you, you could have gone and re-read all of the posts in those few pages multiple times and gleaned from your posts the same thing that Fnord and I did and that Cornflake indicated mods were dealing with behind the scenes. The end.

OK, time for you to bring in the big guns.
You keep on referring to what Cornflake has said.
What did he actually say?
I suggest you call him into this discussion.



As I have said multiple times, the onus is on you to provide a valid argument that supports your accusations against me.
I am not going to do your 'hard yakka' for you.
Seriously, what are you thinking?

Read my last post before this one.
BTW, game set and match.
Pepe for the win.

BTW.
You do realise the implication of what you have disclosed in this post, right?
You have given me more information than you realise.

What are you going on about now

As for the other thing, I said:

I have already been called racist for not caring if minorities marry other minorities because they find it so important to keep their race going. This is very common in Native Americans. Not once did I imply I was against biracial families or relationships. If anyone was being racist, they were about Native Americans because this is their culture. I live in Montana where I heard this talk. Lot of people in my area were Native American and some believed they should only marry other Natives so they can stay existing. Now I am not going to tell anyone who they can't or can't marry and have kids with. Some choose to have kids with a white person or with another person of color (like my dad did and my grandfather). Native American culture was never that important to my father but it was important enough that they took us to pow wows and tolds us about Native American history so I always knew Natives didn't fight pioneers because they were the villains, it was because their land had been stolen so they thought they were going to take their land so they would fight. But they were always portrayed as villains ion historical fiction books.

I just thought they were stupid and people are free to read that post. They had their evidence that I was "racist" and it was my post but anyone can read it and choose to take it literal or be an ableist by not taking it literal. If I truly thought minorities can't have kids with white people, I would have written it. Racists do not know they are racist so they say racist stuff all the time and don't understand why they are called racist. Even their own evidence against them tells them nothing.

One thing I would ask these wokes is if it's so racist to be fine with Natives wanting to have kids with other Natives too keep their heritage going, should I be against their decision? Wouldn't that be xenophobic of me because this is part of their culture and intolerance of their culture is xenophobia. But back then I was so confused their their racist accusation was coming from I couldn't defend myself and I was like "weird, they sure like to throw that term around" and thought they were just stupid and I moved on. If they had said why they thought that of me, I would have told them "I am on the spectrum so I am literal and if I truly meant they can't have kids with us white people, I would have written it. I say what I exactly mean, no in between. Everyone is free to have kids with whoever, I never understood why anyone would be against biracial families or relationships. My dad is Native American, my mom is white, my grandfather was Native, my grandma was white so that makes me a descendant."

But apparently white supremist and Nazis have also said "I am fine with people having kids with their own race to keep their race going" to mean "Minorities better not have kids with us white people and mix their race into ours." NTs are so weird with their language. Sadly even some autistic people know NT language because I have seen them project it onto users here as well. To me you cannot convince me someone meant X when they said Y unless you can prove it somehow. I will know by their actions. Look at Donald Trump. That is why I never fell for his "fake news" crap he always claimed.


So there you go, I have been called a racist, it did no damage, I moved on. Their only proof they had was what they think I meant by what I had written. The end.

You've snapped off the needle on the logical fallacy detector.

I'm afraid NTs have learned to covertly use double speak and code with their language/body language that even average NTs have trouble with. It's all about hiding/deceit in order to have an advantage over us.