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26 Sep 2007, 12:04 am

anyone intrerested in trying to preform a trans-locational group magickal experiment? and before you skeptics laught it off, what do you have to lose by trying... this is an experiment used to produce results. If the experiment works somthing will have been gained and if not: no skin off your nose, the ritual I am preposing is simple and has produced significant results for me in the past. but I wonder how a trans-locational group ritual will effect the results. anyone game?

PS. Belief in magick is not a prerequisite, belief is only a tool to obtain results. non-belief does not sabotage ritual if it is preformed... :jester:


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26 Sep 2007, 12:11 am

Just exactly what ritual is it and what is its purpose(s)?


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26 Sep 2007, 12:12 am

i'd be all too glad to help debunk magik as another hoax. i'd be glad to volunteer if there's any way i can help.



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26 Sep 2007, 12:22 am

I propose that a group sigil casting take place on a certain 24 hour period, the sigil can represent any sort of willed desire but I was leaning toward cause a group increase in self-confidence, a trait that many aspies could use a bit more of...


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26 Sep 2007, 12:29 am

again, i'm willing to volunteer if i'm available. obviously, i have work and other things...but i could probably squeeze it in later.


unfortunately being in california probably makes me the odd man out since i'm the farthest back time-wise (with scheduling in mind).



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26 Sep 2007, 12:32 am

Sure. But I'll probably corrupt it. :P



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26 Sep 2007, 12:49 am

skafather84 wrote:
again, i'm willing to volunteer if i'm available. obviously, i have work and other things...but i could probably squeeze it in later.

unfortunately being in california probably makes me the odd man out since i'm the farthest back time-wise (with scheduling in mind).


No worries... at most it should take 15-20 minutes. I was hoping to get some of our euro brethren involved as well, time zones shouldent ruin intent :lol:

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Sure. But I'll probably corrupt it. :P


Nah, It should be fine, ritual is beyond personal corruption. you could f**k up your sigil firing but that'd be pretty hard.


I'll construct the sigil and write up instructions and possibly post some links explaining the sigil technique by tomorrow. hope toe get a few more on board by then :jester:


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26 Sep 2007, 1:11 am

BeyondInfinity wrote:

Nah, It should be fine, ritual is beyond personal corruption.


You know VERY little then.



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26 Sep 2007, 1:23 am

calandale wrote:
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Nah, It should be fine, ritual is beyond personal corruption.


You know VERY little then.


As Plato said: I only know that I know nothing. But this is a group ritual, PERSONAL corruption and failure are very real, perhaps I wasn't quite clear. I believe personal failure should not affect the group overall, but thats the point in doing an experiment, isn't it? This is a results/no results based experiment.


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26 Sep 2007, 1:31 am

BeyondInfinity wrote:
calandale wrote:
Sure. But I'll probably corrupt it. :P


Nah, It should be fine, ritual is beyond personal corruption. you could f**k up your sigil firing but that'd be pretty hard.


I'll construct the sigil and write up instructions and possibly post some links explaining the sigil technique by tomorrow. hope toe get a few more on board by then :jester:



if it works, it works.

everything else in the world doesn't require people believing in it for it to happen....so why should some other portion of mechanics?


i mean if someone says they don't believe in the mechanics of guns, it doesn't change how they work.



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26 Sep 2007, 1:36 am

skafather84 wrote:

if it works, it works.

everything else in the world doesn't require people believing in it for it to happen....so why should some other portion of mechanics?


i mean if someone says they don't believe in the mechanics of guns, it doesn't change how they work.


this is a central concept in Chaos Magick: belief is a means to and end, not a end-in-itself


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26 Sep 2007, 1:40 am

BeyondInfinity wrote:
skafather84 wrote:

if it works, it works.

everything else in the world doesn't require people believing in it for it to happen....so why should some other portion of mechanics?


i mean if someone says they don't believe in the mechanics of guns, it doesn't change how they work.


this is a central concept in Chaos Magick: belief is a means to and end, not a end-in-itself


my point was that belief or disbelief does not effect mechanics...at least not universal mechanics.



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26 Sep 2007, 1:49 am

I'm in.



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26 Sep 2007, 3:22 am

BeyondInfinity wrote:
calandale wrote:
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Nah, It should be fine, ritual is beyond personal corruption.


You know VERY little then.


As Plato said: I only know that I know nothing. But this is a group ritual, PERSONAL corruption and failure are very real, perhaps I wasn't quite clear. I believe personal failure should not affect the group overall, but thats the point in doing an experiment, isn't it? This is a results/no results based experiment.


Reasonable. Never tried dealing with
a group raising power for something
specific. Normally, just tapping into
those who are unaware.

Should be interesting for everyone
involved. :P



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27 Sep 2007, 1:18 am

Ok all, I just constructed the Sigil for this experiment:

From statment of intent: It is our will to become more self-confident

eliminate all repeated letters:ITSOURWLBECMFND

and rearrange, combine and morph the letters to create a sigil representing the desire to the subconscious:


Image

will post ways to fire them tomorrow, is Friday a good launch date?


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27 Sep 2007, 1:55 am

Should be interesting.
Never played with anything
of this style before.

Should we be tracing our own
copy, using our preferred medium?