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11 Jan 2024, 9:30 pm

Ever wonder how the world is a global military industrial complex controlled by three regions US, Europe and Russia. This video goes where no other video has gone before. It precisely explains the roots of European global expansion. It amazes me it has taken so long for somebody to create this.



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12 Jan 2024, 10:31 pm

You left out China. Until recently, China was the world's 4th largest arms dealer.

1) U.S.
2) Russia
3) France
4) China
5) Germany



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12 Jan 2024, 10:38 pm

^ Fair point, but I wanted to show the roots of all Indo-European societies from their semi-nomadic warrior roots and how climate change facilitated martial cultures that expanded by conquest over largely peaceful agrarian societies. The original flags of every European nation bears a coat of arms.



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13 Jan 2024, 12:32 pm

While climate change was a factor, it wasn't the only factor.

Primitive agriculture resulted in nutrient depletion in what had once been fertile soil. Deforestation also had an adverse environmental impact as trees were felled for construction as well as for the use of fire. Growing population density as a result of the food sources available through an agricultural lifestyle would have stressed local resources, forcing the people of a specific area to expand their territories; possibly at the expense of their neighbors.

Human nature being what it is, there have likely always been covetous jerks who have been envious of what other people had. Since faming was labor intensive, lazy people would likely not have fared very well. It would have been easier for these people to take instead of growing food on their own.

The effect of climate change was not uniform across all of Europe. Barry Molloy, (Journal of Archaeological Research, 02 August 2022) has suggested that “a fairer but less concise answer may be that climate change undermined the organizational logic of specific social systems that were in the process of reorganization after a period of unsustainable growth, thereby leading to a collapse in belief and participation in those systems.”

In other words, the average person is likely happy with the status quo so long as their needs are being met. When their needs are no longer met, chaos can ensue if a given society is unable to adapt to changing factors so as to continue meeting the needs of the people in their group.



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13 Jan 2024, 6:52 pm

David1346 wrote:
The effect of climate change was not uniform across all of Europe. Barry Molloy, (Journal of Archaeological Research, 02 August 2022) has suggested that “a fairer but less concise answer may be that climate change undermined the organizational logic of specific social systems that were in the process of reorganization after a period of unsustainable growth, thereby leading to a collapse in belief and participation in those systems.”.


I agree there are other factors that played a part. But its interesting that the specific time that Indo-European horse/chariot tribes expanded was within a surprisingly very short window period.

Pre-Indo-European peoples in Europe, western Asia and northern South Asia were advanced in terms of town/urban planning and built heavily fortified settlements, Exactly 2500 BC a major climate event occurred. We know agrarian societies at this time were heavily reliant on monoculture agriculture and in regions where wheat/barley was predominant those societies began to collapse. This also impacted the nomadic Indo-European horsemen of the steppe who were semi-nomadic pastoralists. They could no longer rely on grassland for their stock animals or planting seasonal crops to supplement hunting so had to switch to raiding to survive. Within a very short time the Yamnaya nomadic horsemen of the steppe (the ancestors of all Indo-European speaking people) expanded really quickly into these specific regions.
1. Yamnaya/Corded ware Indo-European people completely displaced/wiped out the original populations in eastern, central and western Europe.
2, Indo-Eueopean Yamnaya people swiftly replaced Etruscans in Italy, Minoans in Greece and Hatti/Hurrians in Anatolia.
3. Indo-European Yamnaya/Androvo peoples swiftly replaced the Elamite people of what is Iran
4. Indo-European Yamnaya/Androvo peoples swiftly replaced the Dravidian people of what is northern India.

I think the Indian/Iranian example best exemplifies the climate hypothesis. The Dravidians and Elamites built advanced settlements in Iran and nothern India which both mysteriously vanished within similar time periods. The Indus valley the river called the Sarawswati which fed grain production in northern India coincidentally dried up.

The hymns of the invading indo-European tribes at this times were encapsulated in the religious texts known as the Rig Vedas. The hymns (originally transmitted orally since Indo-European tribes were illiterate and had no written language) of both the ancestors of the Iranians and northern Indians start with their war god "Indra" (anologous to sky father Zeus and Odin) shooting bolts of lightning at the the forts of the Dasa (their fortified enemies). The vanquishing of the forts of the Dasa was celebrated in the first chapter of the Rig Veda (likely reflecting the depopulated forts of the ancient Dravidians and Elamites were no longer able to defend against the chariot riding hordes that swept from the north).

However this climate event did not impact on the tropical south of India. The war like tribes did not venture into the regions where rice was a staple crop and it's precisely these regions in India where Dravidian is still spoken. Interestingly this event was repeated much later when Alexender the great conquered norther India. As his forcers moved south they met stiff resistance in regions where Dravidians lived and rice was cultivated they were (for the first time) unsuccessful and this began the collapse of Alexander's empire.



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14 Jan 2024, 3:56 am

cyberdad wrote:
Ever wonder how the world is a global military industrial complex controlled by three regions US, Europe and Russia. This video goes where no other video has gone before. It precisely explains the roots of European global expansion. It amazes me it has taken so long for somebody to create this.




While I understand your point regarding climate change as having had an influence over early cultures, I don't understand how this relates to the current global military industrial complex. There is way too much history between now and some 3,000+ years ago to correlate climate change as a decisive factor between then and now.



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14 Jan 2024, 4:28 am

^^^

If you go back to my point that every European nation state/principality/nation state had their own coat of arms. European empires followed a warrior culture which is built from invasion/expansion and genocide of indigenous populations from it's inception in 2500BC. Thus we live in a post European colonial world where European global hegemony is held together by a military industrial complex that takes almost all a countries annual budget. The proof of the pudding is the US annual budget where the biggest allocation goes to military/defense and national security (CIA, FBI and NSA). There are also trillions that are fed into a black budget that is not accounted. All of this follows a tradition that actually goes back for millennia.