Abhorrence of Christianity?

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Yes, there can be legitimate religious discrimination. That would be something like "You worship Christ? We don't allow your kind in this workplace!" it would not be something like someone facing backlash for being homophobic in a workplace or refusing to use someone's pronouns and then saying it's because of their religion.

The latter is what I typically see. That is what conservative Christians in the US think is unforgivable discrimination against them over "sincerely-held religious beliefs". It is nonsense.

^ Yep, no one is disputing religious discrimination happens although it is infrequent towards Christians in Western countries, but people often misconstrue scrutiny and criticism with discrimination. It’s not uncommon for Christians to claim they are being persecuted merely because someone disagrees with them.

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whoever you are some as*hole won't like you. What about a black person hit with a DWB, that's pretty bad oppression

Expressed homophobia would be an example of discrimination based on sexual orientation.

The person who is unlawfully discriminating against an LGBTQ+ person in that instance, could conceivably also receive unlawful discrimination during any backlash in the form of belief discrimination.

The law gets a bit murky in these types of cases in practice. It would be difficult to argue a discrimination case in a court of law for example, for homophobic backlash, because the person receiving belief discrimination would also be perpetrating a different kind of discrimination (discrimination that violates the protected characteristic 'sexual orientation').

Discrimination against Muslims.
Discrimination against Jews.
Discrimination against Wiccans.
Discrimination against Hindus.
On and on.

Way down the list is discrimination against the religion that has their scripture in hotel rooms and hospital wards across the land. Their places of worship on every second street. Their book shops, radio stations, and tv channels. Their bands. Their this, that, and everything else.

Then we get to their politicians who're trying to get Trump bibles into every room in every state school, Eleven commandments posters on every school and courthouse wall, and the dissolving of women's rights, gay marriages, and gay families.

To hell with Charia Law.

The bible says to do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.

Christians are afraid that might happen. But it hasn't. And probably won't. Not in the West.

My guess as to why Christianity is singled out for scrutiny is that it has been historically considered a characteristic of the ruling class. As such, it's the only religion one can criticize without being accused of "punching down".

So basically, it's more anti-establishment than anti-theistic.

Christianity causes more problems in the West than other religious groups due to its popularity here. It makes sense why it would be scrutinized more, not that people don’t talk about problems related to other groups, too.

It gets criticised because it's obsessed with the mote in other people's eyes while ignoring the log in its own eyes. It gets criticised because religion should begin and end with one's own beliefs and actions (and fellow believer community),but it continually tries to interfere in other people's lives.
It gets criticised because it opposed every push for freedom and equality. People who identified as Christian opposed desegregation, marriage equality, etc.

These same people ignore what Jesus ACTUALLY said, labelling those who do what he said to do as 'socialists' and 'woke'.

Nobody criticises Christians who do what Jesus said to do. Practice your religion, and as Petra sang, 'More Power to You'. We know wonderful Christians. I've helped out members at a local pentecostal church, and I'm not Christian. I'll be helping them set up for an event today.

But every attempt to deprive others of freedom or equality or health care because of misuse of religion will be called out. This is not persecution.

In the West particuarly praticising Christanity is in decline. However, there are some areas of resurgence especially in the Catholic Charismatic church's which involves the gifts of the Holy Spirit. There are areas of resurgences in some African countries and Latin countries as well.

I think though that people are free to choose what they want to do. The Church is still important today. I like going to worship God and to recieve the Eucharist which Jesus said we should do as Christians in his memory and you can only get that at church really. Jesus used to attend the Synagogue to worship as well on the Sabbath. Also, the gifts of the Holy Spirit is recieved through baptism or the laying of hands which again in most instances now will happen through a Church which some people will want to develop. I find the support from my church very helpful and the ritual also of going to church. The service I go to is quiet and just 30 mins. It is small and it is held in a chapel. It is just 3 mins from where I live I as well. I really do need it in my life, but have had times in my life where I haven't gone to church. For me when I can I am better off going to church without doubt. I happened to write about my experiences at this point in life on this related topic and the link to that is in my signature. I do not wish for any comments though in this thread about my personal experiences. Just though if you want to know about the gifts of the Holy Spirit I suggest you read the link in my signature and as this thread is related to it seems sensible to mention it.

The Church scandals make me sad and they don't help themselves. Also, only perfection will be found in Jesus which we need as Christians to keep our focus on.

I did think Trump was a Christian, that is news for me and I don't want to get into politics. The prime minister in the UK is an atheist with Christian values.