Dox47 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
It's really impressive how Musk has engaged in such an aggressive campaign of highlighting his own stupidity.
Ahh, I see this must be about the trans stuff, as dispassionate and intellectually rigorous Walrus has left and Whacky Wally has entered the chat. Tell me, was there not a flicker of discomfort as you were typing out this screed about the richest man in the world, who happens to be the most successful business executive of our lifetimes, who just leveraged his purchase of a dysfunctional social media site into a seat at the most powerful table in the world, in which you repeatedly call him
stupid? I have my issues with Elon, but
stupid? Come on, buddy.
Yeah, he's obviously stupid. I think any dispassionate analysis has to notice that.
Peter Thiel is worse than Musk, but smarter. So is Dominic Cummings. So is Tom Cotton. So was Antonin Scalia. Musk is just a stupid guy.
If we want to go over his business record:
- Zip2 was an unmitigated success for which, by all accounts, he deserves a large share of the credit. Made him $22m when he sold his 7% share. Cool. Well done him.
- I don't think it would be especially controversial to say that the success of PayPal was
despite Musk and largely due to Thiel)
- SpaceX had three successive failed launches that nearly bankrupted both Musk and the business, before a fourth (successful) launch won them a NASA contract.
- Tesla successfully turned electric cars into mass-market consumer goods after Musk's takeover.
Around the launch of the first Tesla vehicles, Musk's "real life Iron Man" internet persona began to take life. Tesla is now has a price-to-earnings ratio of about 100, compared to an average of about 25 for the "Magnificent Seven" (which includes Tesla) or about 4 for Volkswagen. It is hugely overvalued. If it had a comparable price-to-earnings ratio to Amazon or Meta or Alphabet, Musk wouldn't be the richest man in the world.
In the mean time, he's had a string of business ventures not work out: SolarCity was a failure, the Boring Company hasn't taken off, neither has Neuralink. The Hyperloop was a stupid idea. And at Twitter, he tanked revenue and is now tanking the userbase, and that's just the objective stuff. I'm pretty confident there are cheaper ways to get in Trump's good books, as evidenced by the people he's given real appointments to.
Is Musk the stupidest person alive? Clearly not. But he's gullible, foolish, and surrounds himself with yes-men.
For instance:
https://youtu.be/3u8_fp1TtJE?t=105 (link skips the preamble, but tl;dr, Musk believed six lies on Twitter in 24 hours).
And, like, that's not an isolated thing with him. He's
convinced ChatGPT could lead to a genocide of white people and that
women can't think, or claiming that Paul Pelosi was attacked by a prostitute rather than someone looking to kidnap his wife. I already mentioned his posts about the Democrats importing voters, or about the UK's race riots over the summer. Smart people make mistakes sometimes, but they aren't aggressively wrong multiple times a day, and they don't accidentally tweet that antisemitism is warranted or that women are inherently stupid.
He's a stupid guy who is routinely tricked by fake news, doesn't think before he speaks, and has run multiple businesses into the ground. He is probably quite naturally intelligent, but his divorces and drug addictions have shattered him, and now he's functionally indistinguishable from a stupid person.