Trump administration swiftly enacts retribution

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26 Jan 2025, 11:43 pm

The payback against people who have criticized Trump has ranged in severity, but it’s come quickly, within his first week back in power.

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For those who may have crossed President Donald Trump, the message is sinking in: Payback is coming, and coming fast.

John Bolton, a former White House national security adviser who wrote a damning book about Trump’s first term, lost the Secret Service detail assigned to protect him from assassination threats from Iran.

Also losing his detail was Anthony Fauci, the public health scientist whom Trump called a “disaster” over his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic and who has been a target of far-right anger ever since. (Fauci has hired his own private security team in response.)

A portrait of Mark Milley, the former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who broke with Trump over a photo-op at a church during the George Floyd racial justice protests, was abruptly removed from the walls of the Pentagon. Defense officials said they have no idea who ordered it taken down or why.

And Trump yanked the security clearances of dozens of former national security officials who’d signed a letter during the 2020 campaign opining that emails from a laptop belonging to Joe Biden’s son Hunter had the “classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

All that happened within days of Trump’s inauguration — and in some cases, hours.

“There are plenty of early warning signs that confirm the worst fears of people who were concerned about a second Trump administration and what it would mean for the rule of law,” David Laufman, a former senior Justice Department official under Republican and Democratic administrations, said in an interview. “The real question remains what checks and balances will there be to prevent the creeping establishment of an authoritarian state in the United States.”

“I thought he was a very dumb person,” Trump said of Bolton, adding that the government can’t pay for people’s Secret Service protection in perpetuity. (Ex-presidents receive lifetime security details.)

“When you work for government, at some point your security detail comes off,” he told reporters. “And you know, you can’t have them forever.”

A White House spokesman, meanwhile, said the former national security officials deserved to lose their security clearances.

“By abusing their previous positions in government, these individuals helped sell a public relations fraud to the American people,” said Brian Hughes, a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council. “They greatly damaged the credibility of the Intelligence Community by using their privileges to interfere in a presidential election. President Trump’s action is restoring the credibility of our nation’s institutions.”

The Trump administration’s moves thus far impose varying levels of hardship for those on the receiving end. Milley’s portrait had been unveiled 10 days before Trump’s swearing-in. Its abrupt disappearance from a wall dedicated to the Joint Chiefs of Staff may serve as a warning to future chiefs that they, too, can be erased from Pentagon history if they fall out of favor with the commander in chief.

Bolton said he’s taking private safety measures now that he’s lost his Secret Service detail. In 2022, the Justice Department charged a member of Iran’s feared Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in a plot to murder Bolton, likely in retaliation for the Trump administration’s killing of an Iranian general two years earlier.

Biden first provided Bolton with a security detail in December 2021, and it had been renewed every six months since then — most recently last month, Bolton told NBC News.

“This is part of the retribution campaign,” Bolton said.

“It doesn’t really matter to him [Trump] the level of seriousness,” he added. “Each thing he can do makes him feel a little bit better.”

Members of the U.S. intelligence community told him in the days before Trump’s swearing-in that the threat of assassination remained unchanged and had not gone away, he said.

“They are playing with his life, not merely damaging his professional opportunities, but they’re putting a man’s life at risk in order to punish him for criticizing Donald Trump,” said Rosa Brooks, a former senior Defense Department official in the Obama administration and a co-leader of the Democracy Futures Project hosted by the Brennan Center for Justice.

Should Iran harm Bolton in some way, that could compel the U.S. to respond militarily, escalating tensions and drawing the two nations closer to war.

Denying security clearances to those who co-signed the Hunter Biden letter can create financial distress for some who are now in the private sector and need them to fulfill government contracts.

One person whose security clearance was taken away said in an interview, “They are now being hurt financially — and also the country is being hurt — because these are people with decades of experience who continue to serve the government after they retire.”

“There’s no legitimate policy purpose that this serves,” this person continued, speaking on condition of anonymity. “From the standpoint of freedom of speech and our rights as U.S. citizens, we have every right to warn the American people that the Russians continue to engage in these information operations to influence American politics and elections.”

Still, it’s not clear how much thought the new administration gave in announcing the punishment. Mark Zaid, an attorney who represents some who signed the letter, said in an interview that most of the people no longer possess a security clearance.


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27 Jan 2025, 12:59 am

this isn't particularly surprising, Many authoritarian leaders who suffer grandiose narcissism can't hold back retribution of their enemies. I imagine those who were vocal of their criticism of trump might want to look out for white vans with masked men waiting outside their homes. Perhaps Ellen De Generes knew something in advance.



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27 Jan 2025, 2:15 am

As usual, conservatives are against freedom of speech.


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27 Jan 2025, 2:16 am

cyberdora wrote:
Perhaps Ellen De Generes knew something in advance.


She's an expert on how abusers behave, at least if she's capable of self-reflection on her own actions and her own motives.


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27 Jan 2025, 2:23 am

funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdora wrote:
Perhaps Ellen De Generes knew something in advance.


She's an expert on how abusers behave, at least if she's capable of self-reflection on her own actions and her own motives.


Perhaps Ivanka did some internship in Ellen studios?



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27 Jan 2025, 5:36 pm

Trump shouldn't be nasty, glad he won...time to show Biden.
I'm sure he's just under pressure, and deadlines to deliver on price of eggs are delayed, but people should give him this song....he can dance too.



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27 Jan 2025, 6:20 pm

Ursula wrote:
Trump shouldn't be nasty, glad he won...time to show Biden.
I'm sure he's just under pressure, and deadlines to deliver on price of eggs are delayed, but people should give him this song....he can dance too.



That's my favorite GH song


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27 Jan 2025, 6:34 pm

We need to consider making conservatism illegal, and be an interim left-wing dictatorship.

Once the permanent removal of conservatism from US politics is complete, then we can be a social democracy.


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27 Jan 2025, 7:48 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
We need to consider making conservatism illegal, and be an interim left-wing dictatorship.

Once the permanent removal of conservatism from US politics is complete, then we can be a social democracy.


Russia and near 2nd Chernobyl....seems they're not wanting to vote usa, anymore.
Despite horrid slavery past, USA did save Africa from horrific fate of colonialism, so power of America wasn't really built on nazzi system, those Europeans who also used slavery are now ones against it, one that want to colonise South Africa and get rich, so how long is Russia going to fight NATO before a shock-horror hits tribal system that even with fall of reserve Bank that is what Hungarians felt as hit with policy of hungry wolves in winter.
Asia is free, not colonised any longer so it's easy for them to turn blind eye to Schengen visas in Mauritius which then goes to inland borders as 'some' Europeans may cause more damage to nature reserves and equal lateral damage as Greenland.

But wars have cooked USA goose even more than how British took bit too many resources say for example like India.
Why Somalia voting Trump, starved under EU and woke the hell up, these liberals in USA are disguised nazzi who never got cake, this is their revenge. Some red Indians voted for Trump, saying being deported but life in rainforest may be good.
Mexico should maybe look food security, by having those at shelter work to grow veggies for food security, maybe more past peaceful Canadian style bring prosperity. I can see border tensions escalating and I'm wondering how bad this could get.

I just don't think nazzi principles pay off!! !



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27 Jan 2025, 11:52 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
We need to consider making conservatism illegal,


Anyone who tries that in trump's America will face his Jan 6 brownshirts. the 2nd amendment permits them to carry guns and Qanon Shaman has sent a message to any future anti-trump forces
https://m.imdb.com/news/ni65085670/?ref_=nm_nwr_1

Next 4 years might actually see armed clashes.



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27 Jan 2025, 11:54 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
We need to consider making conservatism illegal, and be an interim left-wing dictatorship.


How'd that work out in Eastern Europe? :scratch:


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Yesterday, 3:02 am

cyberdora wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
We need to consider making conservatism illegal,


Anyone who tries that in trump's America will face his Jan 6 brownshirts. the 2nd amendment permits them to carry guns and Qanon Shaman has sent a message to any future anti-trump forces
https://m.imdb.com/news/ni65085670/?ref_=nm_nwr_1

Next 4 years might actually see armed clashes.


Yet as long as people view socialism (and by extension, social democracy) as "that bad thing from the 50s", nothing will change.

I have long opined that the Dems need to become a true social democratic party, such as Sweden's SDP or the Corbyn-era Labour Party. But where things currently stand, they can only win nationally if they are "GOP-Lite". And even then, they didn't win in 2024. If AOC and JD Vance ran in 2028, Vance would win by a far larger margin than Trump did against Harris, because people are too stuck into these Cold War mindsets, even though the CW ended over 30 years ago. Also, white man vs woman of color.


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Tim_Tex wrote:
If AOC and JD Vance ran in 2028, Vance would win by a far larger margin than Trump did against Harris, because people are too stuck into these Cold War mindsets, even though the CW ended over 30 years ago. Also, white man vs woman of color.


Ask yourself what it is about trump that attracts the 75 million?
I think republicans like to overestimate the so called moderate republicans in their ranks as life long republicans. But what exactly makes a life-long republican. What qualities should a human being have apart from the usual patriotism and America first? Or to put it another way, what is it white America are conserving.



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Yesterday, 8:54 am

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Trump shouldn't be nasty, glad he won...time to show Biden.

He won. So you'd think he'd be satisfied. But no matter what he wins, he'll always be a loser inside he's own mind. He'll always be a petty little man unable to satisfy his own ego. His inferiority complex will never go away no matter what he achieves. That's why he's forever chasing the dragon. Always trying to set himself above others by pulling stunts like this.


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