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KoiInAFrozenPond
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31 Oct 2007, 3:16 pm

hi!


Let me tell you this, aspergers is far more common among males than females, that is an undeniable fact.

I´m a male myself and I do believe that I have Aspergers. I have not been diagnosed with it.


In my opinion, males are in general more intelligent than females.....do you agree?

Womens (in general) are more driven by instinct than males. In my opinion males are more evolved
than females and males are more aware than females.

On a side note, when i´m in a room for example, I can always tell when there is a woman there that is genetically in the top of the woman genetic spectrum, in other words, she´s "girl-y-girl-y" so to speak.

I think asperger is caused by evolution and the fact that the human race is constantly getting "smarter" and more intelligent in all possible ways.

In my opinion, the white male is the most evolved creature on earth (do you agree?)

the white male is therefore the creature that is most likely to develop aspergers syndrome.


So basically my questions are, do you agree with me that males are in general more intelligent, smarter, more evolved compared to females in general?

I know that females and males are different, so thats not my question. Also, I only hate females slightly more than males. (generally speaking) :roll:





I have 1 more opinion/theory, I believe that white humans are more evolved than black humans, do you agree with that or do you disagree?


this post is not made to offend anyone, to me this is burning questions that I have sought opinions on for a long time in my life.


Are people today to afraid to state that they believe white humans are more evolved than black humans because of political reasons, for example afraid of being labeled a racist?


What do you say people? I really would like to know you're opinions about this.... :D


s**t, Ive got a bad case of this disease........ :wink: ....kidding



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31 Oct 2007, 3:24 pm

Men and women are equally smart, they just think different. Men are better at systemising, while women are better at empathising. The white man isn't more intelligent or more developed than other races/ethnical groups.



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31 Oct 2007, 3:28 pm

Yeah, if you think white people are superior to anyone in any way, go take a trip down to the local tailor park.



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31 Oct 2007, 4:57 pm

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
hi!Are people today to afraid to state that they believe white humans are more evolved than black humans because of political reasons, for example afraid of being labeled a racist?

I'm not racist. I hate everybody regardless of their race.

Just kidding. :lol:



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31 Oct 2007, 6:44 pm

You dont seem to be truly racist or elitist, but you do seem to have simplified it in some painful ways.

Men and Women are the sames species. they cannot have and do not experience evolution at different rates.

Color has nothing to do with intelligence. Otherwise it might be said that the people of India and other asians such as the chinese are smarter than we white people. They certainly are, as a group, far better at math and certain other logics.

AS has nothing to do with intelligence. An arbitrary line was drawn in the sand by doctors; there is no firm division between low functioning autism and AS. Ask some of the people who where diagnosed with LFA as kids, and are now very functional. Some LFA do better in life than some of the really bright Aspies. The dianosis of AS is purely social construct, largely by white males.

Thirdly, Evolution isnt measured in terms of greater or lesser evolved. It is simply adaptation to local environment, and the science behind it says nothing as to superiority against creatures(and people) in other environments.



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31 Oct 2007, 6:50 pm

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:


Let me tell you this, aspergers is far more common among males than females, that is an undeniable fact.


Sure.

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
In my opinion, males are in general more intelligent than females.....do you agree?


No.

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
Womens (in general) are more driven by instinct than males. In my opinion males are more evolved than females and males are more aware than females.


I would say that men are more driven by instinct when it comes to females, if you get my drift.


Men are the biological venture-capital of the species. If there is a group of people living on some island, and half the men get into a canoe to fish and they die, the group will continue. The women are not so pro-risk and pro-travel. They evolved to do the gathering while watching the younguns. Different roles, different types of intelligence.


KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
I have 1 more opinion/theory, I believe that white humans are more evolved than black humans, do you agree with that or do you disagree?


Maybe 'white' humans are more evolved to live in cold climates - with fair skin, they can absorb ultraviolet better in the cool, short summers closer to the poles. But when fair skin people move closer to the tropics, they are ignoring whatever gains their ancestors got over the past few thousand years. In the tropics, the 'more evolved' 'white' people are at a disadvantage and are really just 'asking for' malignant melanoma and other forms of death.



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31 Oct 2007, 7:07 pm

If less pigment is a sign of being more evolved, are albinos the master race?



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31 Oct 2007, 7:07 pm

So if white people are more evolved than black people, does this mean Mexicans are more evolved than black people but less evolved than white people, and Asians are between Mexicans and whites? I've seen some Asians that are a lot paler than most white people, but some that are darker, so where are Asians on the evolutionary scale?
So then albinos must be superhuman demigods if you are more evolved the lighter your skin is!



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31 Oct 2007, 11:55 pm

I hate everyone and everything!



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01 Nov 2007, 1:47 am

Averick wrote:
I hate everyone and everything!

Based on your avatar, you look pretty damn light skinned.
You must be MAD evolved!



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01 Nov 2007, 3:11 am

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
Womens (in general) are more driven by instinct than males.

I'm afraid that statement only makes sense in colloquial language. The scientific content is close to 0, because "driven by instinct" is more a value judgment than anything else. If you want a comment on the value of your statement as a scientific hypothesis, you have to state it clearly enough that someone could derive clear and testable predictions.

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
In my opinion males are more evolved than females

Again, what do you mean? The most likely interpretation involves the misconception that evolution always leads to greater complexity, or greater whatever it is that you value highly. That is not how evolution works.

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and males are more aware than females.

More aware of what?

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
In my opinion, the white male is the most evolved creature on earth (do you agree?)

I am not yet persuaded that your statement means anything scientifically. If I interpret it on the basis of the misconception that "most evolved" means "most of a trait you find desirable", then that depends more on what you find desirable. For most groups you can find some trait where that group scores highest, and if that trait is what you like, you can call that group the most evolved by the colloquial interpretation. Or if you are determined that this group should be the "most evolved" you take that trait as the defining criterion. That is only good for jokes, not for science.

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
do you agree with me that males are in general more intelligent, smarter, more evolved compared to females in general?

No to the first, no to the second, for the third, make it meaningful and I'll decide then.


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01 Nov 2007, 9:32 am

Averick wrote:
I hate everyone and everything!


yea, thats a good point. :D


Well, anyhow, I´m religious and I do believe in god.
I mean, we all know whats the right thing to do, It´s all in the bible. I have no right to question the lords earth, but I guess I see this as my opinions or questions.


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So if white people are more evolved than black people, does this mean Mexicans are more evolved than black people but less evolved than white people, and Asians are between Mexicans and whites?


For now, that would be my opinion, yes.


When I say aware, I´m talking about the "feeling of existing". For example, a human are aware that he/she is alive, but a bumblebee might not be aware of its own existence in the world.

I don´t understand much of your post Gromit, to me it just seems to be science mumbo-jumboo that is rather pointless, to me at least.


But why would males and females be equally evolved? Or white and black humans?


A dolphin is smarter than a bee and apes are not as smart as humans, right?

Millions of black people lives in poverty in Africa, furthermore, the countries in Africa have a crime rate that is extremely high.

In the USA most crimes is committed by black people, undeniable fact once again.

Black people have in general less money than white people. (USA)


How can you say that all humans are the same? That all humans are equally evolved and equally smart?

I don´t really understand how you can say that all humans are equally smart. In my opinion people say that for 1 reason, to be seen as politically correct, and thats great. But, its not the truth in my opinion.


What I say here is my opinions. But there is more evidence that black people are less evolved/intelligent than that all humans are equally evolved/intelligent.


Why do people always assume that all human races are equal? Where is the evidence for that theory?



Thats the way I see It. I know that you will all agree with me..... :)



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01 Nov 2007, 9:48 am

Black people in the USA are poor because their ancestors were slaves. Black and white people in the US were also separated until the middle of the 20th century. Black people in Africa are poor because of political corruption and because they don't have many resources they can export.



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01 Nov 2007, 2:18 pm

The holes in your logic are so large that one would need spelunking gear in order to explore them.

Reodor_Felgren is correct about black people. The high crime-rates are due entirely to socioeconomic reasons and do not, in any way imply that they, as a race, are inferior.

Your pigmentation = intelligence correlation makes zero sense. Skin color is an evolutionary method of adaptation to areas of different sunlight, it has nothing to do with intelligence.

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
What I say here is my opinions. But there is more evidence that black people are less evolved/intelligent than that all humans are equally evolved/intelligent.


Then please share.

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Why do people always assume that all human races are equal? Where is the evidence for that theory?


Um, that the neurophysiology is identical?



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01 Nov 2007, 2:28 pm

KoiInAFrozenPond wrote:
I´m religious and I do believe in god.
I mean, we all know whats the right thing to do, It´s all in the bible.


sexism, racism and scientific illiteracy along with bible-thumping xianity: what a surprise.

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When I say aware, I´m talking about the "feeling of existing". For example, a human are aware that he/she is alive, but a bumblebee might not be aware of its own existence in the world.


so you think that men are more self-aware than women?

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I don´t understand much of your post Gromit, to me it just seems to be science mumbo-jumboo that is rather pointless, to me at least.


*snort*

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But why would males and females be equally evolved? Or white and black humans?


Evolution is the shift in genotype over time. Since we are the same species, we have virtually identical genotypes. It is impossible for a child to be born without posessing the genotype of its parents, and since men can sire daughters, and women can give birth to sons, it is impossible for one gender to have evolved in the absence of the other.

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Millions of black people lives in poverty in Africa, furthermore, the countries in Africa have a crime rate that is extremely high.
In the USA most crimes is committed by black people, undeniable fact once again.
Black people have in general less money than white people. (USA)


How old are you? Have you taken ANY history at the high school level or above?

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How can you say that all humans are the same? That all humans are equally evolved and equally smart?


All humans are not equally smart on an individual level, but on a population level, in general, they are.

For example, a study of (white) children in Appalachia, an extremely poor area of the US, found that children who were pulled from school early in order to help their parents with chores had IQs something like 10 points lower for every year of school that they missed, compared to those who stayed in school. That's all about environment, not evolution.

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Why do people always assume that all human races are equal? Where is the evidence for that theory?


Again, it's in the genes. If black people are evolutionarily (genetically) stupid, then so are white people because we have the same genes. Same/same for men and women.



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01 Nov 2007, 2:54 pm

So what I can tell from your posts, is that you don´t agree with me at all, and thats cool.

Maybe I´m wrong, maybe black humans and white humans are just as "smart" then.

To me this is all speculation....we don´t have the answers anyway.

Well, looks like we have come to the end of the road about this topic......