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WhiskeyInTheJar
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21 Nov 2009, 10:44 am

Is it the last taboo? Cause taboo it is, just have a look on the forum here...
'closed for the duration'...

Freedom! Thas was woodstock '69...
Now the former hippies are the Politburo...


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21 Nov 2009, 10:49 am

i think it might be more due to the racist views expressed regarding Islam, something that is against the rules of WP



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21 Nov 2009, 10:53 am

There's nothing wrong with mentioning Islam as long as you're not one of those people who keeps parroting the BNP's unofficial party slogan "HURRR DURRR ENGLAND IS BCOMING A MUSLIM COUNTRY HURRRR."
I mean, personally, I think as a religion Islam is pretty moronic, but I don't spout hate speech to or about those who were raised to believe in Islamic superstition.... and I don't pretend that Islam automatically makes someone a terrorist or evil or that muslim immigrants are going to somehow become the majority and institute sharia law (another one of your beloved BNP's beautiful little intellectual talking points).



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21 Nov 2009, 10:54 am

TitusLucretiusCarus wrote:
i think it might be more due to the racist views expressed regarding Islam, something that is against the rules of WP


I dont want to be a smart arse here, racism isnt possible here cause islam has ALL colours, but was there racism?


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21 Nov 2009, 11:06 am

Silly, isnt it, how the flower power generation made a switch to 'no freedom, just do as we do, turn a blind eye'.

What was the name of this black guitarist at woodstock again?: "Freedom, freedom!!"
Yes Bob Dylan, the times, they are 'a changing...
But not quite as you imagined.

Woodstock was for nothing...


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21 Nov 2009, 11:08 am

factually correct, but I'm yet to meet someone speaking negatively of Islam to actually note this. When they speak of Islam and Muslims in this manner they generally mean an individual of semitic, arabian and north african extraction (amongst others). If it weren't racism then it would be discrimination based upon religion. Islam is certainly not a homogenous entity, there is a huge amount of debate of particular interest to those who attack muslims as 'violent, murderous and terrorists', I understand, around what is and what is not a Jihad, types of Jihad and legitimate actions during a jihad - I understand it to be only neo-whabbists who accept civilians, women and children as legitimate targets on a jihad (I understand the Prophet Muhammed returned from a military campaign once and remerked that it was time to turn from the lesser Jihad to the major Jihad - meaning the turn from jihad against external enemies to the jihad against personal vice/sin - something along those lines).



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21 Nov 2009, 11:26 am

goodie yupa!
Islam is moronic and superstitious!
Watch it or you re gonna get a closed threat


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21 Nov 2009, 11:43 am

Btw yupa, your name is in green.
But it dont see 'moderator ' under your name.
Why's that?
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21 Nov 2009, 2:17 pm

Yupa wrote:
...as long as you're not one of those people who keeps parroting the BNP's unofficial party slogan "HURRR DURRR ENGLAND IS BCOMING A MUSLIM COUNTRY HURRRR."

Get a flight over here and visit Bradford. You'll see just what the BNP are talking about...



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22 Nov 2009, 2:48 am

Before I reply to your post i would love to know what your political perspective is. In the main you appear to be ignorant and xenophobic, is this how you wish to portray yourself? Do you actually have a perspective other than to abuse and insult all and sundry


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22 Nov 2009, 3:04 am

ascan wrote:
Yupa wrote:
...as long as you're not one of those people who keeps parroting the BNP's unofficial party slogan "HURRR DURRR ENGLAND IS BCOMING A MUSLIM COUNTRY HURRRR."

Get a flight over here and visit Bradford. You'll see just what the BNP are talking about...


I am sick of hearing this. As an ex pat I often talk to folks about the UK. Islamic Bradford keeps coming up. Well here are the facts

'in 2006, it was estimated that 74.9% of the city's population was White (72.2% White British, 0.7% White Irish and 2.1% as Other White), 2.9% Mixed Race, 20.5% Asian or Asian British, 1.6% Black and 0.6% from other races. 16.8% of the population are of South Asian origin, representing the second highest proportion in England and Wales outside London, in terms of both population (behind Birmingham) and percentage (behind Blackburn with Darwen). Nearly half of all Asians living in Yorkshire and the Humber live in Bradford, with one district, Frizinghall, having the highest concentration of Pakistanis in England and Wales, making up 73% of the local population.[10] Accordingly, the city has a large Islamic population, with 16.08% of the population identifying themselves as Muslim in the 2001 census.[30] 60.14% were Christians, 1.02% Sikhs, 0.95% Hindus and 13.3% were identified as having no religion. The percentage of Jews, Buddhists and those following other religions each amounted to fewer than 0.5% of the city's population.'

So ONE area Frizinghall has a majority population of Pakistani's. This hardly equates to the claim that Muslims have taken over Bradford let alone the country

Bradford is a medium sized city, in the north of England with bugger all employment.

It is now becoming the focus for the ignorant xenophobic and racist rantings of white supremacists. Using the stats outlined above it would be equally true to lament how 'Bradford once a good Christian town is being overrun by atheists'


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22 Nov 2009, 3:28 am

well said



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22 Nov 2009, 10:41 am

DentArthurDent wrote:
....in 2006, it was estimated that 74.9% of the city's population was White...

And it is projected that will soon be less than 70%. A similar situation exists in London. These people reproduce faster than us (cultural reasons) and continue to import their relatives thanks to Gordon Brown and his buddies. In certain areas of these cities, and many others across the UK, you will not see a white face. In specific localities white people are ill-advised to venture. We see people attacked for being white. People tortured to death for being white. Why the hell should we sit back and accept this? None of us ever asked for our government to open the gates to all these immigrants. It was never even part of an election manifesto.



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22 Nov 2009, 11:54 am

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.. A similar situation exists in London. These people reproduce faster than us (cultural reasons) and continue to import their relatives thanks to Gordon Brown and his buddies. In certain areas of these cities, and many others across the UK, you will not see a white face. In specific localities white people are ill-advised to venture.


I am highly sceptical of these claims. Can you tell me where exactly in london these 'no-go areas' are? if i can get there on my travelcard, i might pop down and report back.



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22 Nov 2009, 12:11 pm

psych wrote:
ascan wrote:
.. A similar situation exists in London. These people reproduce faster than us (cultural reasons) and continue to import their relatives thanks to Gordon Brown and his buddies. In certain areas of these cities, and many others across the UK, you will not see a white face. In specific localities white people are ill-advised to venture.


I am highly sceptical of these claims. Can you tell me where exactly in london these 'no-go areas' are? if i can get there on my travelcard, i might pop down and report back.

Here are two articles for you to look at psych, though they may not mention specific areas in London:

From the Telegraph.
From elsewhere.



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22 Nov 2009, 1:35 pm

seriously ascan. you're an embarassment. one of those is about Dewsbury in West Yorkshire - and is from a blog by the looks of it (oh, yes, a very reliable source of information not at all open to propagandist abuse). The other is a CoE bishop sabre rattling about something for which not one iota of evidence is offered. disestablish the CoE? I'm in! about bloody time those hangovers of medievalism were torn up. When do we take on the vatican? That it is claimed there are areas whites can't go in the UK for fear of violence or abuse, and that this is significant in face of the years of abuse and violence doled out to every non-white indivdual in the past 60-80 years, is humorous

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In certain areas of these cities, and many others across the UK, you will not see a white face.


so what?

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In specific localities white people are ill-advised to venture.


especially the goose steppers.

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We see people attacked for being white.


I'll consider that an honest concern when you're willing to go to superhuman lengths to end violence toward non-white individuals - including you incessant propagandising.

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People tortured to death for being white.


evidence for this absurd claim?

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None of us ever asked for our government to open the gates to all these immigrants. It was never even part of an election manifesto.


I think you've misunderstood the nature of democracy. the point is that the views of a tiny and pointless minority of ignorant white racists can't be forced upon everyone else.