Conservatives and Homosexuality

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I'm just wondering why conservatives like to fixate so much upon homosexuality.

Any thoughts, opinions, psychoanalyses?

You have talked to every conservative on this matter?

ruveyn

In general a lot of conservatives tend to lean towards homophobia. It's a stereotype that doesn't apply to all conservatives, but it had to come from somewhere. I like to blame it on their traditional taste in life (religion) but I don't really know. Your guess is better than mine.

No, but everyone conservative that I have met loves to rant at length about homosexuality.

For example, http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexual

The Conservapedia's article on homosexuality is by far the LONGEST article that the Conservapedia has.

All Conservatives are perpetually anxious to speak at length, while foaming at the mouth with anger, about the Homosexual agenda to bring untold and unspeakable evil and sin to America.

Conservatives are often influenced by Christianity. Christianity is opposed to homosexuality. It seems that simple.

pandabear: unless you're pretending to be three times your age on here I doubt you'll find a sufficiently lofty answer.

fidelis: there's that, but I think also drawing the dividing line - those who obsessively dislike gays vs. those who simply voted for Prop 8 and things like that, different stories. The first is clearly against, the second in most cases was by people who don't believe its their fault or even necessarily a 'fault' but worry about stretching or heavily modifying the institution of marriage. Some people have thought to give 'civil unions' full weight and credit, with shared insurance, taxes, etc. but while there are those who feel that this is technically still unequal its probably a better idea that rather than trying to break one institution opened that new institutions be built (ie. an institution built by and for the gay community which fits their needs better than, say, bonding in court or dealing with the condescending evaluation they'd get if they tried to be married in a church - with 'marriage' those are generally the only options). I'd like to think pandabear is strictly talking about the first group, that may or may not be the case.

I think its clear that human diversity is what it is, it can't be held wrong nor those subject to it be treated as 'immoral' in the sense that its not free will, that demonstrates by common sense.

Other than that you have democrat and republican bible beaters, they may all technically qualify as 'social conservative' but there are also many other kinds of conservative. As far as people obsessed about urges in an avoidant or spiteful way, the nature of human neural wiring seems to make it that by the very act of making it something ultra-important means that, like any obsessive thought, you lower your resistance and thresholds which can cause some rather odd/paradoxical behavior.

I'd say that you're reading what a few people with strong opinions railed on about and typically its those people who love to bang pots and pans loudly on the internet. Then again you say that every conservative you know is like this? I'm thinking you simply live in that kind of area perhaps.

I think it was George Carlin who said that the "closet" that secret homosexuals are said to come out of is actually the Republican Party.

Homophobia is outward projection of a self-denial brought on by intolerant "traditional values". There are many right-wing Christian examples of this in effect.
Mark Foley, Bob Allen, Jim West, Michael Huffington, Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Trent Lott, Ed Schrock, Roy Ashburn, I'm pretty sure the list goes on.
It's a case of "Methinks the lady doth protest too much". The "if I kick the X, people won't notice what an X I am" principle, which is at the root of most bullying.

To put it simply:
Homophobia is totally gay.
Right-wing Christians are totally homophobic.
Most Republicans are right-wing Christians.
Therefore, most Republicans are totally gay.

Agreed.

Some yes, others fear 'God' who dislikes it - so you could perhaps say homophobic by proxy.

You apparently haven't been here much.

Even if the third point were true (I simply think you live in the wrong country to know enough Republicans) you'd be saying that three out of four gays have chosen to oppress themselves and those who are openly gay, that's saying something quite negative about a distinct majority of gay people. I'd be curious to know what you think happened differently in the development of the maybe 20-25% who came out about it rather than covering it up?

Conservative gay-bashers have a major tendency to demonstrate
that they are self-loathing, closeted hypocrites by getting caught with
their own pants down after significant acts of homophobia.

Normally I would keep out of something like ths, but hey -

Where would one get the idea that a problem with homosexuality is the prerogative of the "religious right"? I will not go into worldwide non christian leftist groups that do not exactly celebrate the gay.

I will say - personal experience - that I for my strange manners was labelled homosexual [I am not, by the way] by alleged peers who were in many cases nonChristian and liberal [so titled] in politics.

Homosexuals and I share green monkey status - and you do not have to say "the N word" to be a racist. Heaviest racist I knew - down on dark skin, down on Jews, though I honestly do not know whewre he stood on homosexuality - was a serious socialist.

I'm not sure it is that simple. I know a number of nonreligious conservatives who are opposed to homosexuality.

Note that the word is "influenced". The fact that somebody is non-religious doesn't mean that they necessarily throw out this kind of baggage. I mean, what defenses do they make of their position? If they make relatively lame defenses, then you know that it isn't the defenses that are driving their opposition. What's the biggest and most consistent source of opposition in the West though? Christianity, and it has impacted Western culture for millenia.

Actually, coming, I assume from Paul, Christianity seems to be unhappy with any sex at all. The Catholic nuns and priests are required to be devoid of sexual activity as something of an example to the rest of the Christians as ultimate in behavior and most of sex is somehow regarded as marginally tolerated as a human failing rather than a necessity for the continuance of the species.

It's also a wedge issue that's been deliberately used for political purposes for at least 30 years. The people who came up with it might not have even cared if anyone was gay. Same with politics and evangelical Christianity -- Ralph Reid and all.

I don't understand how someone can be nonreligious and opposed to homosexuality. There's really no secular reason to be opposed to it.