What Would Happen if the Right to Bear Arms was Taken Away.

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aghogday
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21 Apr 2011, 4:14 pm

What would happen in the USA if the right to bear arms was taken away. Just a hypothetical question. In reality, I don't see it happening.

The hypothetical question assumes there is enough support for the idea for an ammendment to the Constitution to take the right away. I don't know what would precipitate the support; if you have any opinions I would be interested.

In another thread about guns, I noticed the citizens of other western countries do not have this right, and they seem to be in agreement that it is not a problem.

Would we have revolution? When I think about it I get a picture in my mind of Charleston Heston and his statement for support for the NRA and taking his gun out of his cold dead hands. Is it that important to some Americans to bear arms.



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21 Apr 2011, 4:24 pm

We would all have to wear sleeves.

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21 Apr 2011, 4:27 pm

I'd make some crack about living peacefully after all the nutters were locked up or killed themselves trying to live up to "from my cold dead hands" but there's other factors at play here that I think make a difference. Most likely a large number of resisting arrests, murders, murder-suicides. Considering Mexico is just to the south, there'd probably a huge crime boom with black market weapons.


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21 Apr 2011, 4:38 pm

I don't think it would make a tremendous difference to society, but it will never happen. People seem to think the left-wingers all want to ban guns, but a whole lot of them have guns they want to keep too so there is no support for it outside of keeping convicted criminals, the mentally ill, and children from getting guns. The tiny percentage that want all guns banned is very vocal, but has no real political influence. In fact, when I recently bought my gun, I went to a left-wing chat to get advice on the best one to buy because I knew most of the people there owned guns.



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21 Apr 2011, 4:41 pm

What if my aunt was my uncle?



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21 Apr 2011, 4:57 pm

Jacoby wrote:
What if my aunt was my uncle?

Then he'd be transgendered.


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21 Apr 2011, 5:45 pm

aghogday wrote:
Is it that important to some Americans to bare arms.

It sure beats only having bare fists to bear.

Seriously though, I have always heard citizens having armament is a big reason the continental USA has never been attacked ...

... but then Khrushchev once said something about burying us without ever taking a shot.


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21 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

leejosepho wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Is it that important to some Americans to bare arms.

It sure beats only having bare fists to bear.

:oops: Sorry, that is a right that the President's wife exercises. :)

Seriously though, I have always heard citizens having armament is a big reason the continental USA has never been attacked ...

... but then Khrushchev once said something about burying us without ever taking a shot.


Good point, there would be no "Paul Revere" factor; we might be less likely to avoid a terrorist attack or a series of them. I think it is possible an armed citizen might play a factor in preventing one; not likely, but possible. This seems to be our current risk.

I don't think it would hold anyone back from trying one, though.



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21 Apr 2011, 6:17 pm

Less gun violence, more knife violence.

Overall, people would be killing each other with stones if that was all they had available.

Nothing important in politics. People that think their little guns is what stops their government from going authoritarian are ... nuts.

Number of terrorist attacks prevented by gun nuts taking their guns everywhere: 0.


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21 Apr 2011, 6:21 pm

The main difference would presumably be cultural. Actually are you saying that every gun in the country has been rounded up? I think what would happen is that people would keep hold of their guns and continue to use them .otherwise.



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21 Apr 2011, 6:36 pm

jamieboy wrote:
The main difference would presumably be cultural. Actually are you saying that every gun in the country has been rounded up? I think what would happen is that people would keep hold of their guns and continue to use them, otherwise.


If they were illegal to bear, people would be required to turn them in. Not likely the government would require it without somekind of credit. The question here is would people comply or go against the law. Easier to track and control with registered guns. But, with guns that aren't registered, I'm sure some would hold out, in complying with the law.

Really, though, it depends on what circumstances in our country would precipitate such a change. If it was anarchy, the military could be involved in confiscating the weapons. Not a good scenario.



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21 Apr 2011, 6:48 pm

Armageddon. A plague of locusts o'er the land. A rain of frogs.

Nah, in reality I think the people who would suffer the most would be the cops put in charge of rounding up the guns, that would get ugly in a hurry. On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P


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21 Apr 2011, 6:57 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Armageddon. A plague of locusts o'er the land. A rain of frogs.

Nah, in reality I think the people who would suffer the most would be the cops put in charge of rounding up the guns, that would get ugly in a hurry. On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P


I still stand by my "murders, suicides, and murder-suicides" statement. There's some SERIOUS people about their guns and they would very quickly fire at a police officer or soldier trying to confiscate their weapon or maybe kill themselves and their family.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:05 pm

Dox47 wrote:
Armageddon. A plague of locusts o'er the land. A rain of frogs.

Nah, in reality I think the people who would suffer the most would be the cops put in charge of rounding up the guns, that would get ugly in a hurry. On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P


Yea, I wouldn't want to be one of those cops. I wonder how many guns (including rifles and shot guns) people own in the USA. Considering my father owns a hundred and he hasn't hunted in 20 years, I think there might be hundreds of millions. No way to round all of them up.

Another impact would be for the economy; the end of a business that has been core to our culture for hundreds of years. So many reasons, I think, that it would never happen unless there are catastrophic circumstances.

Amazing that anyone has a real concern that the government is going to come in and confiscate arms. I think if it were to happen, it might be as a result of the end of our government and another country taking over. Another bad scenario, but there is no guarantee that it will never happen.



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21 Apr 2011, 7:06 pm

Dox47 wrote:
On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P



Yep. You'd end up on the same side of the law as drug dealers.


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21 Apr 2011, 7:21 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Armageddon. A plague of locusts o'er the land. A rain of frogs.

Nah, in reality I think the people who would suffer the most would be the cops put in charge of rounding up the guns, that would get ugly in a hurry. On the plus side, my ability to build a gun out of raw materials would suddenly get a whole lot more valuable; I'm thinking small scale CNC production on a mid sized boat offshore... :P


I still stand by my "murders, suicides, and murder-suicides" statement. There's some SERIOUS people about their guns and they would very quickly fire at a police officer or soldier trying to confiscate their weapon or maybe kill themselves and their family.

The number of radical gun-nuts probably outnumbers the number of police and national guard willing to obey orders to do house to house searches.


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