north korea claims nuclear test

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6032525.stm


and all of this made possible by a couple of factors but i'd like to place a lot of blame on george walker bush. mainly because he chose to do nothing in this matter and said it was a regional issue and no concern of his...in direct conflict with his stance in the middle east where he has to protect his allies and becomes directly involved.

with the middle east bush made a key mistake without even realizing it. he helped display just how impotent the united nations is and in doing so, just showed to north korea that they could go ahead and not worry about serious action from the united nations other than some angry words and maybe a slap-on-the-wrist sanction.

so while our troops are being misused and efforts are wasted in iraq, north korea continues to grow as a global threat.


not to mention we're gonna be in iraq for a few decades if anyone wants that done correctly...which i seriously doubt anyone will want to do...because the area is a waste and the investment isn't worth it. there's no return for us.

Well, looks like things just keep going downhill. Anyone have a bombshelter that all the WP members can duck into, you know, just in case?

well that's what they claim

no question Bush's Iraq war played some role in affecting the diplomatic milieu with N. Korea. but then it also affected the diplomatic milieu with Libya in a positive way...

and it had no affect on syria...which is where most of the ba'athists went to hide when we went into iraq.


not to mention it generally made the middle east situation worse in the sense of making us seem more like we're just invading the middle east and waging war against islam.

Apparently the South Koreans detected a tremor at 3.58 Richter scale...

http://www.bigpond.com.au/news/breaking/content/20061009/1758836.asp

yeah...they detected a quake around the time. doesn't necessarily mean it was nuclear...but considering everything else...that's quite probably what it was.


feel sorry for a guy i know who is currently teaching english in south korea....he's gonna need to go to the embassy to find out what's gonna be going on with americans over there soon.

So they didn't blow apart the whole peninsula?

why would they blow apart the whole peninsula? i mean a nuclear weapon is powerful but it doesn't cut continents.


it just makes glass out of deserts.

And if it destroys the whole peninsula, it sort of defeats the purpose of a nuclear test. I don't think Pyongyang will use one on America.... Kim Jong-Il's too fond of movies....

not to mention they have no means of delivering such a weapon to america. not yet anyways.


their prime targets are south korea and japan right now.

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20 KT yeild. Typical military warheads are 100 KT. Good for killing civilians but it want
when a war unless they can make hundreds.

If the NK uses these 20 KT firecracker they need to know a 20 MT yeild device could be
dropped on them.

i don't think using diminutive terms like firecracker really lessens the severity of the situation.


not to mention you're talking like as if kimmy boy is a rational person. i seriously doubt he's going into this nuclear venture looking to sustain a war with his new nuclear power.


that's more iran's game, if anything.

Sorry I did not mean to say its not a very serious matter.

My solution would be a nuclear first strike. I would fake a 20 KT tipped NK missle hitting a remote area of SK. I would then level NK .

That's what George W. Bush would do, too, if he or his advisors had any brains at all.

so you would strike sk first, blame nk then strike nk hard?


i'm glad you're not in charge of decision making....that's a really irresponsible call and generally....i tend to look down on killing a lot of people. not to mention it'd be easily traced back. you can't really fake a nuclear strike. even if the area is rather isolated and unpopulated, it would still ruin hundreds of miles from the radiation fallout and generally create a big mess.


i'm squeemish about nukes but i'm not against its use...but i'm sure japan will use theirs before we get to flinch if it comes down to that.