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10 Oct 2012, 3:04 pm

If you hate America, then please leave. You're not doing any of the rest of us any favors by staying, especially those of us who were (and still are) willing to die to protect your right to whine and complain that America is not good enough for you because you have to get up off of your lazy butts and earn a living.

If you've already left, then stay out. We don't need you here, either. We have enough problems without having to show hospitality to a bunch of self-righteous bigots who have never shown any gratitude, especially when American armed forces came to your country's rescue and liberated you or your ancestors from the brutality of some psychopathic dictator.

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10 Oct 2012, 3:20 pm

And one more thing regarding the statement in bold:

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You're not doing any of the rest of us any favors by staying, especially those of us who were (and still are) willing to die to protect your right to whine and complain that America is not good enough for you because you have to get up off of your lazy butts and earn a living.


:lol:

It's called the 1st amendment and if you enlist then you are agreeing you will DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. That being said, people do have a right to whine and complain to their hearts content. And if you're sick of it then please fill out one of these and e-mail it to the congressman who represents your district:





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10 Oct 2012, 3:29 pm

Any nation : love it, or become an outcast.

There is no such thing as "choosing" another nation. The other one has to admit you first.



10 Oct 2012, 3:30 pm

enrico_dandolo wrote:
Any nation : love it, or become an outcast.

There is no such thing as "choosing" another nation. The other one has to admit you first.



A-MEN mah brotha! :afro:



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10 Oct 2012, 4:12 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
It's called the 1st amendment and if you enlist then you are agreeing you will DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. That being said, people do have a right to whine and complain to their hearts content.

Oh, I have no complaint against the right to complain; it's when those complaints come from people who have never served their country, and who somehow expect their country to simply hand them what they want, simply because they want it.

Of course, there are those who -- for some actual disability -- simply are unable to make do for themselves. These people do deserve some basic care ... but no special privileges, in my opinion. In any case, if you're receiving some form of governmental entitlement, then you have no reason to complain, even though you still have the right to complain.

AspieRogue wrote:
And if you're sick of it then please fill out one of these and e-mail it to the congressman who represents your district:

That form is EXACTLY what we need! Alex should issue that to anyone with a complaint about someone else's posts.

:lol:

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10 Oct 2012, 4:17 pm

You know what? f**k it... It's not worth it. Just keep waving that hypocrisy flag, fnord.



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10 Oct 2012, 4:23 pm

Fnord wrote:
Oh, I have no complaint against the right to complain; it's when those complaints come from people who have never served their country, and who somehow expect their country to simply hand them what they want, simply because they want it.


Like Mitt Romney, for example.



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10 Oct 2012, 4:26 pm

:lol:

So now you have to like everything about a country in order to live in it?

Clearly you hate Americans, Fnord. Maybe you should leave?



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10 Oct 2012, 4:45 pm

Complaining that your country allows citizens a First Amendment right to complain without prior military service also amounts to complaining.



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10 Oct 2012, 5:44 pm

Fnord, complaining is the first step to effecting change. Yes, the sacrifices made by our armed forces (including waiving many of their constitutional rights during service) are great, but one of the right's they're protecting is the right to complain! Part of the reason we have many of the provisions in the United States Constitution (including a lot of stuff in the document itself, but also things like the right to petition the government in the 1st Amendment) is to effect legal, bloodless change from within the system.

Yes, people who just piss and moan without actually doing anything are annoying. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, aye?


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10 Oct 2012, 6:06 pm

Fnord wrote:
", especially when American armed forces came to your country's rescue and liberated you or your ancestors from the brutality of some psychopathic dictator. "

You know its remarkably coincidental that this 'liberation' you speak of only seems to manifest in countries that produce oil.

I don't live in America, and the sort of self gratifying pompous demands from Americans to 'love it or leave it' makes me want to live there even less. I'm glad I live in a country with the freedom to criticise the status quo without attracting a 20 foot wall of derp.

Ironically enough, IIRC it was one of the American founding fathers who said "to criticise one's government when they are wrong is the single greatest act of patriotism one can show"...or words to that effect.

FYI: America isn't all that anyway. The far east is the place to be, and even more so in the coming decades as the asian economic tiger continues to growl.



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10 Oct 2012, 6:19 pm

AMURKAH f**k YEA!
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10 Oct 2012, 6:20 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Oh, I have no complaint against the right to complain; it's when those complaints come from people who have never served their country, and who somehow expect their country to simply hand them what they want, simply because they want it.
Like Mitt Romney, for example.

Who?



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10 Oct 2012, 6:26 pm

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So now you have to like everything about a country in order to live in it?

Not at all. It's as the fundies say: "Hate the Sin; Love the Sinner". Hate the crap some of our leaders get to pull off, but love the country they pull it off in.

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Clearly you hate Americans, Fnord. Maybe you should leave?

I don't hate Americans, just spoiled, whining, complaining, do-nothing slackers with an exaggerated sense of entitlement.



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10 Oct 2012, 6:27 pm

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Complaining that your country allows citizens a First Amendment right to complain without prior military service also amounts to complaining.

Well, there you go! But at least some of us have earned the right to complain, instead of just having it handed to us.



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10 Oct 2012, 6:38 pm

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But at least some of us have earned the right to complain, instead of just having it handed to us.


That just means you paid for something that's free. :wink: