"There is no Palestine-Israel conflict"

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An African American journalist visiting the middle east tells it how it is-

"The Palestinians have no agency- The Israelis control everything"

"Zionism has convinced many Jews that they are preserving themselves. The common thought is that if the "savage" Palestinians stop resisting, stop shooting rockets, stop fighting Israel's inevitable domination, there can be peace. I find this peculiar because during my visit, I felt no danger from Palestinians, only from Israeli soldiers. Perhaps it's because I'm accustomed to being hunted in America. There is no Palestinian-Israeli conflict; there is only oppression."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ferrari-s ... 61896.html

Hunted? Is there a warrant out on him?
Yes, I read the article and the author sets the tone of it with his own personal apathy then essentially and predictably moves on to justify Palestinian terrorism. No surprises here and, of course, the typical anti-Israeli narrative lives on......

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2443 ... ccarthyism

Sounds like a Nation of Islam agenda to me...

My question is, why would he smirk and lie to the soldier who asked if he knew any Palestinians. Why not just be honest? Why hide anything?

Just think if he would have been honest and they would have denied him entry, he would have an even bigger drama to stir up anger with. If this guy is for real, he should have just allowed himself to be kidnapped by Hamas. Otherwise he is just bogus looking for drama and attention.

if your pro israel then your pro eternal war because thats what israel seems to want since they lobby for it all the time though AIPAC

also if israel is americas greatest ally then we must have some real crap allys because they have attacked the united states navy without even an apology and sold multiple us secretes to the Chinese and thats just what they have been caught doing

I've always thought the reason we give them money is access to their airstrips.I can't see any other viable reason why we interfere,it's because we want access to that oil in the gulf,at all costs.

Israel is not the one who violates every ceasefire, who uses women and children as human shields, who tortures homosexuals, and who deliberately target civilians with missiles. Your last paragraph is an antisemittic (or antizionistic, which the modern day antisemities like to call themselves) conspiracy theory.

More pinkwashing and selective political analysis.

Its funny how western reactionaries dont care about the homosexual community in any other context, and as for Palestinian violence you have to place it in the context of the geo-political situation. As the article confirms it is the Israelis in total charge of the infrastructure and whose military that are involved in the regular harrassment of the population.

I am not pro any of them. All of them behave like jack asses to me. I can see thru this guy's charade though. I doubt there will ever be peace in the region since all of them love trouble. Read the Bible sometime. Even God is said to revel in trouble at times so what can you expect? I am all for living peaceably together but I know that's not what folks like this want, none of them who follow these holy books in a literal way. It is impossible. Simple fact is these Israelis have the upper hand. Some countries got it, others do not. That's just reality. You have to learn to live within reality and folks do not seem to want to do that.

To me all these holy books folks like this embrace are just primitive, maladaptive blueprint for people living in worlds alien to our own and no one ever bothers to update any of them except the Mormons did once.

Anyone who takes these books as fact and are fundamental about the interpretation are doomed to violence, chaos and trouble because a lot these holy books revolve around cultures immersed in it. Primitive, violent, disgusting cultures who revel in wars and trouble with one another. Ego issues, too. Follow books like that, you will always be at war with others imo because they don't promote getting along, only conquering and subjugating. Sado-masochistic, a lot of it is.

Every once in a while there's a narrative or two about peace but the rest of it is completely contradicted. Confusing mess of contradictions no culture anywhere can successfully live by in a fundamental way. You can only take out the good parts and have success yet so many people believe every word, hook line and sinker hence no peace ever for these people.

What's selective about it? If you support Hamas, you're not pro women's rights, not pro gay rights, not against the death penalty, not pro free speech, not pro democracy, and not pro human rights in general.



I'm a member of the first political party in Norway to vouch for same-sex marriage and same-sex adoption.



The political situation on the Gaza strip is the way it is because of Hamas, not the other way around. What exactly is it about poverty that says that you have to repress women, have to repress homosexuals, have to limit free speech severly, and have to steal from the people and give to the politicians? If it weren't for Hamas and PLO, and with a free market, the Gaza strip would enjoy a standard of living on par with Israel (where only 2.3% of the GDP is donated by the US).

The truth about the Bible is it's not pro gay or women either. Orthodox Jews could be quite bigoted and oppressive to women because it's right there in what God says through his prophets.
There might be some liberal Jews, maybe not even orthodox, but Jews who live by what their prophets say would not be pro gay or women.

If you do believe in God, why would you not think he would update the world? Why must they revolve around books written two thousand years or more ago? Why would God not speak to modern prophets? Wouldn't they exist just like they did long ago? It's just absurd to believe none of it would ever evolve. Humans have changed over the years.

Holy non sequitur Batman. Criticising Israel isn't the same thing as supporting Hamas.

I'm not pro anything other than pro-Palestinians not being abused and harrassed or pro-them not having an enormous wall built around their territory.


Good for you. I wish more members of the pro Israel agenda that use Cultural relativity factors to further their agendas were more consistent.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that LGBT advocacy in Palestine probably isn't going to advance until Palestine as a national unit advances economically, meaning that the power stranglehold of the theocrats can be combatted. This will have to entail Israel accepting its onus to allow Palestine to exist independently, to call off the settlers and allow the Palestinians fair access to the utilities and roads. According to the journalist in the article, this clearly isn't happening and considering he is a first hand witness I am going to take what he says seriously. Israel is a hyperdeveloped military industrial unit which is why it has made more inroads on these issues.


Not true.
Hamas is in charge because their political rivals were percieved as weak in the face of Israeli aggression.

And a free market wouldnt guarantee jackshit. What Palestine needs is secular socialism in lieu of political Islam.

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how is it antisemitic when it fact?
also

also israel uses chemical weapons on civilians and radioactive ammo in their tanks

So if hypothetically speaking, a developed western country like the United States was invaded by a more powerful country, Red Dawn style, rather than resist the occupied American people should just glibly accept their overlords?

You see the problem with this logic?

Certainly seems to be what the pro-Israel folk here expect the Palestinians to do. Oppression breeds and agitates resistance. Always has done and always will. You shouldn't expect different from the arabs.

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This happens to the US all the time. It is being eroded by outside forces right now. Other countries control us.

What? Are you for real? What 'outside forces'?