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It has been a long time issue with religions
It was the main reason I lost faith in God and the Church
(being very gay rights and, well, at least-bisexual myself-I am still confused where I am but I am not at all straight)
anyways-your veiws-NO GAY BASHING
I want to keep this civil and respectful!

Hard to say what the route cause of people objecting to homosexuality is. I'm sure mindless evolution independent of mankind's religious doctrines does not like homosexuality. For the simple reality it might be less productive at making babies. But I hardly look at evolution as a moral compass as it is a ruthless ba$tard. And the human population on Earth is getting very close to max that present technology can support. But you can be sure some
a$$ 500,000 years from now on some planet in the next galaxy will be trashing those not supporting his galactic human expansion plan because they are gay.

things that people cannot fathom or relate to for themselves tend to scare people...




the fact that it is seen in nature is enough for me to believe that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon...

and my grasp of genetics also helps rationalize things...


the whole "choice" concept is what bothers people most, i think... ive heard people here try to claim that one... which i find particularly funny, considering that this is an ASD forum board...

i feel like telling them that they should "choose" to cure themselves of their ASD....

as if there's really a difference in (genetic/developmental/choice) situation.


any who..........

How dost one judge this? Given that religious
threads are subjected to such issues regularly.
Now, I'm about as pro-gay rights as one can
be - but I put freedom to speak ahead of that.

Let me clarify it for you if anyone gay bashes in any post I see any where on WP it will be removed. And if they keep doing it they likely will be banned.

yes its against the rules firstly
and its pointless in a serious discussion

Again, I'm trying to see what gay-bashing means.
Saying that gays will go to hell, speech which has
appeared here before, without any trouble, seems
then NOT to be included.

In which case, we're really only talking pure hate
speech, which OF COURSE is not to be tolerated.

gay bashing is hate

Always a slippery slope.
But, if that's so, the warning
is somewhat irritating, because
I doubt that we've seen any here
ever.

Ah wait - I'll amend that,
I do remember one troll
(and notorious spammer
under other names) who
kept coming back with that,
along with all his other s**t.

Other than that I haven't seen any real gay bashing here either, but with some things that have been said here before, some might get offended I suppose.

I "fathom" gay attraction completely, having experienced it before.
But why do we lie to ourselves in our political correctness, and DEMAND that EVERYONE IS either precisely 100% heterosexual, precisely 100% homosexual, or precisely 50% homosexual and 50% heterosexual?

Do we just lack imagination or something?

I find women thoroughly hawt, cute, relaxing to look at, and am almost defenseless against their wiles. I find that attraction very natural.
Homosexual attraction is for me a forced "Let's see if THIS mindset can work, if I really try". It's more picturing the penis than the person -- and the pleasure associated with penises is easy to relate to, because I have one. (Maybe this should be in the Adult section. In the necessity of being clear, I realize I'm being graphic.) So, I can more easily relate to exactly what another guy is feeling than I can to a girl. But, as I've said elsewhere on the forum, my attraction to men is a mental switch, which I have to switch on in order to activate it, so it accounts for less than 1% of all my attraction. Interestingly, I'm usually grossed out by the mere thought, but in the right mood, I'm not.

This process of mine was begun as an experiment, to see what all these gay guys were raving about so much -- I just couldn't see the appeal, so I thought I'd give myself a covert education, and get in touch with my feminine side. We've all got male and female elements within our brains, even though usually one or the other is genetically suppressed.

Now, I LOVE sex, but I restrain myself from participating in it, since I'm not married, and I believe sex is wrong outside of marriage. I am also taught that it's wrong for everyone else as well, but I'm not going to forcibly try and stop them -- that's between them and God. So, I can TOTALLY fathom the desire for heterosexual sex outside of marriage; I believe it's wrong for a TOTALLY different reason than not being able to fathom it. Same with gay sex.

With all due respect, I'm not touching this thread with a 10 ft. pole....

HINT: It was on a thread similar to this that I left another AS site.

good luck all! And avoid the 'gay-supremacist'!

but you feel prefectly fine damning people to hell who cant choose not to feel these feelings...... (im talking about people who really are homosexual/bi.... you clearly are straight.... those yes EVERYONE has a little feeling either way... im not saying they dont) like... what if it were the other way around... and you were damned to hell unless you were FORCED (as you describe your homosexual attraction) to participate in homosexual sex the rest of your life??????

you say that they much CHOOSE to be straight (or at least choose to act that way)

that's BS

that's the same as saying POOF! be NT (or try to act NT) or go to hell...



some people feel fine with wanting to change their gayness or Autism... others are proud.

should the ones who cant effectively act straight or NT go to hell (not saying Autism is a sin; it's just part of the analogy)? should they be content with the miserable life of ACTING?


cause that's all it is.... acting and being sorry for your times where you fail.

that is not a life i would want

that is not i life i would knowingly want to supress anyone with

(for that matter... bollocks to a god who's appeased by people earnestly trying to act a certain way though never ACTUALLY feeling the way they're supposed to... i sincerely doubt gay people who try to live straight ever really do feel as strong of an attraction to the opposite sex) this is the EXACT same reason you see so many discontent people on these forums TRYING to fit into an NT world

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i respect all the people on this thread and i do think we can handle things as civilaly (omg i cant spell atm) as possible.

Maybe there is a spectrum?


Imagination for what?


Me too, but I also like women that are stronger and capable of do "manly" things, always looking cute of course.


There are heterosexual people who think that or might wonder that, it's real hard for some who like women to put in a situation when they don't like women, people have wondered, why on earth he doesn't like women, he is missing on a lot of good stuff? which sounds very funny, I don't see a problem with that myself, maybe being bullied in the past made me realised a lot of things, one is respect and support for differences in people that don't do any harm, yeah, that's right, don't do any real harm, other than..... well, you know.


What kind of experiment? I guess no dating for now, would be a good idea, you wouldn't get in trouble for that kind of "experiment", just don't let the church to find out.


I have been thought a lot of things also, that sex outside of marriage is wrong, that masturbation is wrong, that same-sex relationship is wrong, listening to non-christian music is wrong, tv is wrong, etc. and I used to believe all of that at first, probably life experiences or different life situations, not sure what exactly made me change my beliefs into something different, something more acceptable and something that seems more reasonable to me I suppose, so I decided to follow a path different from what I have been thought before.

Who the hell would choose to force themselves to 'try' being gay? If anything, people force themselves to be straight when they're not, rather than the other way round.


lol That would be because you're not gay. I can't see the appeal of having sex with a man either.


But you'll try and stop them getting married in the first place?


Not for me.