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16 Dec 2024, 7:31 am

Why is evolution so objected to while other forms of science don't get so questioned?



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16 Dec 2024, 11:33 am

Churches want their tithes.


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16 Dec 2024, 11:42 am

Evolution conflicts with a literal interpretation of the creation account in Genesis. It doesn’t help that a lot of people who disagree with evolution have a very poor understanding of it because they refuse to look at or consider the evidence objectively. Other branches of science don’t conflict with their beliefs in such an obvious way although many disagree with the Big Bang Theory as well.

As a fundamentalist homeschooler, I didn’t learn about evolution until I was an adult because it conflicted with my family and church’s beliefs. The only thing I knew about it came from church, and they made it sound as silly as possible.



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16 Dec 2024, 11:56 am

I love evolution me


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16 Dec 2024, 12:00 pm

I think, on a fundamental level, it conflicts with human exceptionalism. That's the basis of the religious objection as far as I can tell. But even if you're not religious, evolution forces you to confront the idea that you're not very different from an animal and some of your behaviours might be rooted in very primitive instincts that you retroactively justify using higher brain functions.

Some people don't like that idea.


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16 Dec 2024, 1:09 pm

For me it is the best thing about life

To know that there's thousands and thousands of years of work and struggle and fight just to make me

It never fails to blow my mind


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16 Dec 2024, 1:24 pm

That's the best thing? Better than Jaffa Cakes?


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16 Dec 2024, 1:43 pm

You got me there


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16 Dec 2024, 1:50 pm

DuckHairback wrote:
That's the best thing? Better than Jaffa Cakes?



Jaffa cakes sound like disappointment covered in chocolate.


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16 Dec 2024, 2:00 pm

Yeah but the Jaffa bit is really good for throwing at the window

Sorry op


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16 Dec 2024, 2:13 pm

I don't get it, considering the alternative is humanity just popping into existence from nothing.


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16 Dec 2024, 4:01 pm

I don't think Evolution is objected to by many outside extremist religious groups.


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16 Dec 2024, 4:22 pm

This is from a 2013 survey in the US. I wonder what the numbers would look like now.

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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... evolution/

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Beginning in 1985, these national samples of U.S. adults were asked to agree or disagree with this statement: "Human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals."

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[O]ver the last decade, until 2019, the percentage of American adults who agreed with this statement increased from 40% to 54%.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 111042.htm

It seems like a lot of Americans still believe in pure creationism.



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16 Dec 2024, 4:58 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
I don't get it, considering the alternative is humanity just popping into existence from nothing.


Science and religion both say we popped out of nothing. They just disagree on when.


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16 Dec 2024, 5:11 pm

DoniiMann wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
I don't get it, considering the alternative is humanity just popping into existence from nothing.


Science and religion both say we popped out of nothing. They just disagree on when.


Emphasis added in case the key word was overlooked.

Our current scientific understanding of humanity's origins don't involve modern humans emerging from nothing, but instead that humans emerged through a gradual natural process.

The universe and humanity's origins are not the same thing, even if your comment suggests you're conflating the two together.


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17 Dec 2024, 12:56 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
This is from a 2013 survey in the US. I wonder what the numbers would look like now.

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https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... evolution/

Here’s something I just found:
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Beginning in 1985, these national samples of U.S. adults were asked to agree or disagree with this statement: "Human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals."

[…]

[O]ver the last decade, until 2019, the percentage of American adults who agreed with this statement increased from 40% to 54%.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 111042.htm

It seems like a lot of Americans still believe in pure creationism.

That pretty much sums up the whole situation I think. I expect the backlash is down to the fundamentalist leaders getting more pushy and their followers thinking they know what they're talking about. The Church of England has been comfy with evolution for some time, which is to their credit IMO. Back in Darwin's day I think it was another matter. He was so scared about the religious reaction that he was going to have his work published posthumously, until somebody else with very similar ideas to his seemed like they were getting ready for publication.