Things I want Nationalising

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If I became Prime Minister, or President, I would restore the following to the national domain:

1) Health (already nationalised)
2) Education (already nationalised)
3) Welfare (already nationalised)
4) Emergency Services (already nationalised)
5) Defense (already nationalised)

6) Transport
7) Water
Electricity
9) Food
10) Pharmaceuticals
11) All contractors associated with nationalised services (i.e. cleaning staff must not be outsourced)
12) Oil
13) Renewable energy projects


Missed any out??

Actually there is some privatisation of health, education etc. The way things are going there will be little services that isnt run by a private organisation.

You are trying to advocte ideas that have been tried and failed with disasterous results in dozens of countries that still have not recivered from them 15 years later, yet you cntinue to push this crap as if it is some new and wonderful concept.

Cuba would need to engage in capitalist free trade with the US to bring it's standard of living up (and we will once the communist government is disso.ved or overthrown), China had to resort to capitalism in most areas of the economy, North Korea (the only place on Earth where people seek assylum in China) continues to let it's people starve and live in poverty rather than allow capitalism but reluctantly permitted the free market sale of food to keep everyone from dying, and Vietnam never put much effort into replacing local traditions with communism...and you continue to argue that this is such a great system for Enland and the rest of the world!

Oh yea, I would definately put nationalized
defense, healthcare, welfare and emergency services in the, um tried and, well um, failed catagory; if I were an idiot.

But then, when you have an idiot running nationalized defense, welfare, and emergency services, things can apparently get very bad very very quickly. I think I will have to put Bush in the tried and failed catagory.

I'm a big believer that the government that governs best governs least, but that only works with an enlightened populace and government, and as far as I know, that only exists in nirvana.

So I say socialize everything, and install good leadership.

Castro is trying to create capitalism. He is trying to lift the embargo (Gauntanimo Bay).
US will only lift it after Castro dies.

First of all Communism hasnt been practised right but Cuba's standard of living for the poor has actually gone up since the yank imposed regime and their mafia ran corrupt style of government were kicked out. Nobody dies out of starvation anymore. With a bit of modernisation and a few major tweaks, Cuba has things just about right. Why does no-one ever mention social capatilism as practised in countries like Norway. Particularly the American's act like your commie, soviet scum just for wanting a better deal for the poor. Are they too dumb to realise that you can still have a better deal for the poor and still be filthy rich? The greed is sickening!

I think irishmic made a decent distinction between nationalisation and socialisation, nationalisation has its failings, better local control with a bit more democracy migh be better, unitary control allows the areas of high poulation to dominate the agenda, local co-ops I think would allow better fine control.

How about "romantic" services for qualified bachelors? Hey, it's just another form of welfare, and I have heard this idea proposed seriously for people with disabilities before!

A nationalised dating agency?? Sounds cool!! !! !

Vivi........................

No, I meant a bit more, ahem, physical. That's why I put romantic in quotes.

If sean and neanthumain ever do a stand up comedy tour in the UK, can I have tickets? Not since the demise of Monty Python has anyone provided so much Hilarity.

Somehow I doubt this will happen anytime soon. Nationalizing some things probably isn't the worst idea, but if there's too much nationalization, I think I will scream. Seriously.

It's only been tried on a small scale and were better off with private health care.

Public education sucks. You have to send kids to a private school for a decent education.

With the exception of the disabled, welfare shouldn't exist.

That works okay most of the time.

That still works better than any other nationalized department even though Clinton made it only a shadow if it's former glory.

That works well if you want to spend two hours in an unfavorable environment trying to get somewhere that should only take fifteen minutes.

That's too importat to entrust to government civil servants.

That's too importat to entrust to government civil servants.

That's too importat to entrust to government civil servants.

That's too importat to entrust to government civil servants. Also, the pilot programs suck like hell.
While not super important like the things listed above, that can be done more efficiently by privately owned buisnesses under contract.

That's too importat to entrust to government civil servants.

That's too importat to entrust to government civil servants.

Or to put another spin on your post Sean...

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7) Water

That's too important to entrust to money grubbing corporations.
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8 Electricity

That's too important to entrust to money grubbing corporations.
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9) Food

That's too important to entrust to money grubbing corporations.
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10) Pharmaceuticals

That's too important to entrust to money grubbing corporations.

I love it duncvis. Sean needs to be put in his place!! !

Sean, we in the UK have a national health service that has been running fine for the last 60 years (except when Thatcher drained it of funds in the 80's). Before that, you had kids regularly dying before they reached adulthood. Healthcare that is accessible to everyone is part of living in a civilised society, something which you are obviously not ready for yet.

Thank you for someone agreeing with me on the whole public education debate! Public transportation adds about an hour to get anywhere when traveling, so that's no good.