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31 Jan 2009, 11:13 pm

I was at the store today and heard the name Hayden. It made me think about parenting which has been in thoughts a lot lately. I notice at work a lot of people like to talk about their kids. A safe topic I suppose. When I was seventeen it seemed much easier to declare I hate children with a smile. But alas I'm not as naive and stupid as I was a decade ago so I keep mute at work.

Parenting is very similair to other human endeavors though and it did make me worry about creativity or lack of it. I don't think parents consciously try to name their kids what everyone else is naming theirs but for better or worse trends do happen and we live in a world with a billions chris's, james, johns exc. At this point why not jsut call your child by a number? I hate my name but thank god it's not melissa or jennifer or amy or stephanie. Is this just a case of simple laziness, mass conformity, or an even more disturbing thought that originality in any form is on it's death knell?



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31 Jan 2009, 11:19 pm

I think most people put a lot of thought into their children's names. When I was a kid, I hated mine and asked my mother why she gave me such a crappy name. She told me she named me after her best friend who died in a car accident. I never griped again.



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31 Jan 2009, 11:23 pm

I was almost named, "Aloisius" and then my dad sobered up.


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01 Feb 2009, 12:15 am

How do you pronounce "Aloisius"? Sounds Roman. Pretty cool.


My father was drunk a lot but he didn't have much interest in naming any of his children. He left that up to my mom.



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01 Feb 2009, 12:33 am

AL-OH-ISH-YUSS

May as well have named me "Fauntleroy."


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01 Feb 2009, 12:44 am

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think most people put a lot of thought into their children's names. When I was a kid, I hated mine and asked my mother why she gave me such a crappy name. She told me she named me after her best friend who died in a car accident. I never griped again.



I would ask my mom the same question over and over again. She named me after a girl that was "nice" in her class. My name bothers me. I can't help but sometimes obsess about it. People call me by my name and I don't respond sometimes because I forget my own name; that is how much I don't like my name. I don't associate it with me at all and have to remind myself that it is a label that people call me to identify me.

I also have an aversion to most of the popular names out there. I almost wish names were assigned from birth and parents couldn't name their own children. I know it's silly but I find it incredibly frustrating when parents give into the pressure of having a socially acceptable name for their child. I don't know how i feel about the immortilization issue such as in your case; but I would feel kind of weird being named after somebody whose dead that my mother or father once knew.

It creeps me out that people blindly accept naming their child a name that a million other people picked out for their kid in the same timeframe to boot. At least one thing i can say about my name is that very few people my age have my name. It creeped me out when there was five different Chrises in my grade school class and it creeps me out now.



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01 Feb 2009, 12:48 am

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AL-OH-ISH-YUSS


Well pronounced like that it reminds me of the super kala fragile lish is

I would pronounce it "a-lute- us".

Don't ask where I would get the T sound. Maybe i could get by with a lue us.



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01 Feb 2009, 1:06 am

I would be the kind of person to name a kid "Chris" or "John" or "James" or any of the other boring names. The reason not to give a number is mostly because it is socially unacceptable. But, with a name that is almost nothing, well, I think that just gives the kid an emptier slate to define themselves with. I don't want to try to give some "creative" name that will just be hated forever after this. A solid name will be less likely to be mocked, and a great um... essence, will animate reality more than any name ever ever could.



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01 Feb 2009, 1:28 am

Alosius is a cool name. I just looked it up, it is germanic for warrior. What do you mean your dad sobered up?

In the ancient Jewish culture, the mother was supposedly given the name of the baby by the child's soul. I heard that after I had named my daugher "Mackenzie". Prior to her birth I was set on naming my future daughter "Evelyn". I had a dream where I met her and she told me that she didn't like her name. I asked her what she wanted her name to be and she said, "It's a good name but it's not my name. My name is Mackenzie." The name didn't appeal to me as it is a last name and is more masculine than I wished my daughter to be. This dream occurred two years before she was born and it was so real that I named her this, much to my dissatisfation. But like in the dream she said it was her name and not mine so I gave it up to her so hopefully she can be who she is and I will always be reminded that I am not here to make her who I want her to be. She is such a strong girl too. She has so many positive aspie traits and many positive NT traits as well.
If only she wasn't such a know it all!



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01 Feb 2009, 8:13 am

My full name is Georgina, which I hate because it sounds like a spoilt Victorian girl's name, and not in a good way, LOL. So when I started junior school I shortened it to Gina, which is marginally better but not ideal.

My parents thought I was going to be a boy because I kicked a lot (damn stereotypes!), and they had a massive list of boys names and no girls names, so they just named me the first thing they both liked. :roll:

When I grow up I'm changing my name to Torina, it sounds much cooler!


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01 Feb 2009, 10:22 am

All of this reminds me of a joke. In a first grade class the teacher has asked each one the students to stand up and say their name (a get acquainted thing). So the kids stand up and say their name:

My name is Johnny, My name is Sue .... etc until this one kid stands up and says: My name is Snot Nose. The teacher says that isn't your name. Tell us your real name. He repeats: My name is Snot Nose. The teacher says if you won't tell us your real name you will have leave and bring you parents in to talk this over. He repeats: My name really is Snot Nose. That's it says the teacher leave and don't come back without your parents.

The kid gets up and stops by the desk of his twin brother saying: Come on BS. She won't believe you either.

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01 Feb 2009, 10:27 am

ruveyn wrote:
All of this reminds me of a joke. In a first grade class the teacher has asked each one the students to stand up and say their name (a get acquainted thing). So the kids stand up and say their name:

My name is Johnny, My name is Sue .... etc until this one kid stands up and says: My name is Snot Nose. The teacher says that isn't your name. Tell us your real name. He repeats: My name is Snot Nose. The teacher says if you won't tell us your real name you will have leave and bring you parents in to talk this over. He repeats: My name really is Snot Nose. That's it says the teacher leave and don't come back without your parents.

The kid gets up and stops by the desk of his twin brother saying: Come on BS. She won't believe you either.

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Good one! :lol:



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01 Feb 2009, 1:12 pm

In Ancient Rome it was actually quite ok to just number your children. That's where names like Octavius (the eighth), Septimus (the seventh) etc. come from.



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01 Feb 2009, 1:55 pm

Personally, I think that people shouldn't even be given names at birth, but rather get the right to choose one when they reach a certain age (age of majority, for instance)... that way people decide what's best for themselves, rather than the stupid "we know what's best for you" line parents love to use...



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01 Feb 2009, 2:04 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
Personally, I think that people shouldn't even be given names at birth, but rather get the right to choose one when they reach a certain age (age of majority, for instance)... that way people decide what's best for themselves, rather than the stupid "we know what's best for you" line parents love to use...


What goes on the birth-certificate if not a name?

I'm guessing you don't like your name.



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02 Feb 2009, 11:40 am

Fnord wrote:
I was almost named, "Aloisius" and then my dad sobered up.


Did you get it for a middle name? I know a C. Aloisius B.

Magnus wrote:
I heard that after I had named my daugher "Mackenzie". Prior to her birth I was set on naming my future daughter "Evelyn". I had a dream where I met her and she told me that she didn't like her name.


That's interesting - my daughter is named Evelyn - the line of Eve.

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What goes on the birth-certificate if not a name?



Footprints and the names of the parents. That's what my daughters has ... in the country she was born in, it is traditional not to name the child until it is christened. Once the name is registered, it goes on the certificate.