Does the US have it's first black president?

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08 Feb 2009, 11:55 am

Is he black? Or biracial, thus being instead the first biracial president.

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08 Feb 2009, 12:00 pm

No, Obama is actually Chinese. He's the Manchurian Candidate.

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08 Feb 2009, 12:05 pm

The colour of his skin is the big touching point, more than his racial heritage. Many "African-Americans" are descended from slavery, and Obama is not (with a white mother and a Kenyan father), but he'd still have to face discrimination due to his skin colour.

Note that a lot of African-Americans who descended from slavery have white ancestors somewhere down the line.

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08 Feb 2009, 12:58 pm

Fort56 wrote:

Is he black? Or biracial, thus being instead the first biracial president.

He is sort of orange, don't you think?

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09 Feb 2009, 9:47 am

Fort56 wrote:

Is he black? Or biracial, thus being instead the first biracial president.

well, I believe he is the first non-caucasian president, I hope that is satisfactory enough.

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09 Feb 2009, 9:53 am

We can argue he's really biracial, but he is undoubtedly the most black of any president we've ever had.

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09 Feb 2009, 12:48 pm

greenblue wrote:

Fort56 wrote:

Is he black? Or biracial, thus being instead the first biracial president.

well, I believe he is the first non-caucasian president, I hope that is satisfactory enough.

I concur.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:06 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

greenblue wrote:

Fort56 wrote:

Is he black? Or biracial, thus being instead the first biracial president.

well, I believe he is the first non-caucasian president, I hope that is satisfactory enough.

I concur.

I don't. To show just how far we have progressed along the road of equality we would need to elect a man with a strong resemblance to Rodney King and with just about the same English vocabulary. His inauguration speech would be: "Can't we all just get along?".

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09 Feb 2009, 3:47 pm

I don't get this question. He looks black, which is surely what the whole thing is about?

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09 Feb 2009, 3:50 pm

He is as black as any African-American, which is to say he has some white ancestors.

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09 Feb 2009, 3:57 pm

Most legal definitions of blackness under governments which had laws discriminating against blacks (South Africa, the American South) defined black as having even "one drop of black blood" in one's ancestry. So yes, by the definition of blackness enforced on people of color at certain times, Obama is black.

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09 Feb 2009, 4:00 pm

We have our first asianamerican president Yo-Yo Ma

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09 Feb 2009, 7:16 pm

Psiri wrote:

I don't get this question. He looks black, which is surely what the whole thing is about?

Well, it's more complicated than that. His relationship to the African American community has been called into question (enter: the Jesse Jackson "i want to cut his nuts off" comment); shortly after the inauguration I heard some (clearly African American) woman on the radio saying how he didn't really understand what it was to be an African American because he wasn't descended from slaves; basically boiled down to: "he can't talk about race in is address, he's not really black."

At least, that's what I got from it.

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09 Feb 2009, 8:19 pm

twoshots wrote:

Psiri wrote:

I don't get this question. He looks black, which is surely what the whole thing is about?

That dosant make him not an africam american....we must all be techically correct

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09 Feb 2009, 9:07 pm

Eggman wrote:

twoshots wrote:

Psiri wrote:

I don't get this question. He looks black, which is surely what the whole thing is about?

That dosant make him not an africam american....we must all be techically correct

Some black folk think Obama is a Tom aka an Uncle Tom. So I guess some blacks do think he should be called black.

Obama closer to an african-american than many blacks in the usa because obama dad is apparently african.

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10 Feb 2009, 8:45 am

Eggman wrote:

We have our first asianamerican president Yo-Yo Ma

Is Yo-Yo Mah a natural born American? If not, he cannot become president. But if he did, he would most likely fiddle around.

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