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16 Jan 2018, 5:08 pm

hale_bopp wrote:

No one wants you dead, Mark.

White privilege does exist, though it’s not people’s fault that they are born white.

As a white, blonde haired blue eyed person, athough I’ve been judged and treated badly, I am one of the people who would have survived in world war 2 in Germany, there isn’t a large history of being mistreated via slavery, and people don’t tend to make gross assumptions about my worth because of the colour of my skin. I was born into a rich, predominantly white country (As were you) and we are still receiving the benefits of european colonisation.

I’m trying to lose a bit of chubbiness. First world problems, man. The abundance of resources for predominantly white countries is a knock on effect from white colonisation - you cannot tell me that is not a privilege.

It’s noone’s fault that you’re white, or me, but admitting white privilege exists is a lot different than hating on white people. SJWs hate white people, they’re often biased, ignorant and rude. Most people aren’t SJWs, but can see how white privilege came to be.

Jesus. If you were white with Blonde hair in soviet Russia during the famine when millions were killed you would have done well to live. We are not in the 1930's or 40's. There is no such thing as 'white privilege'. Two if the three richest countries in the world are Arab countries. A lot of Eastern Europe is dead poor. Non white people are given jobs in Europe and the US because they are non white. Whites aren't even the most privileged group in the US. Old white people in their droves are basically left to die in hospitals or at home. Jeesh, if only they used their white privilege cards.....

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16 Jan 2018, 5:16 pm

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You're responding with a meltdown because you have no rebuttal or even an understanding of what you're attempting to respond to...and your never-ending melodramatic responses indicate that you're just triggered by the term and make no attempt to understand what's being said after you've been triggered.

"SJW" is simply an epithet dreamed up by the Alt-Reich to attempt to denigrate anyone who supports human rights and opposes White supremacy. Like "cuck", it wasn't even a thing prior to the Fascist Renaissance.

Na, it's a polite label for people who see Nazis everywhere because of the indoctrination in the education system, TV and films.

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16 Jan 2018, 5:18 pm

XenoMind wrote:

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You get it everyday whether you acknowledge it or not

And how exactly is this happening?

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even if it's not ideologically correct by your standards.

It's just plainly incorrect, by any reasonable standards.

It isn't. It's ironically down to the Nazi like tactic of repeating a lie so much that it becomes true.

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16 Jan 2018, 5:31 pm

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Na, it's a polite label for people who see Nazis everywhere because of the indoctrination in the education system, TV and films.

Not all Fascists wear brown shirts and jackboots...and the sure as Hell aren't "very fine people".

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16 Jan 2018, 5:40 pm

XenoMind wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

You get it everyday whether you acknowledge it or not

And how exactly is this happening?

This has been addressed in earlier posts.

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Feel free to read this so you can actually make arguments that respond to the concept of white privilege instead of just sounding triggered:
http://code.ucsd.edu/pcosman/Backpack.pdf

Enjoy.

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16 Jan 2018, 5:41 pm

JohnPowell wrote:

XenoMind wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

You get it everyday whether you acknowledge it or not

And how exactly is this happening?

funeralxempire wrote:

even if it's not ideologically correct by your standards.

It's just plainly incorrect, by any reasonable standards.

It isn't. It's ironically down to the Nazi like tactic of repeating a lie so much that it becomes true.

It's not that surprising that you're resorting to the tactics of your forebears. :wink:

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16 Jan 2018, 6:07 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

This has been addressed in earlier posts.
Feel free to read this so you can actually make arguments that respond to the concept of white privilege instead of just sounding triggered

> 1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
No I can't. And by the way, I don't really care about it much.

> 2. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
No I can't. I don't have enough money to live in most places, and I can't just go there - only with the visa pre-arranged, and only for short term.

Etc, etc, etc.
All those points may be valid for that girl... but that only means that she is living in the privilege, not me.

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16 Jan 2018, 6:32 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

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I was born into a rich, predominantly white country (As were you) and we are still receiving the benefits of european colonisation.

I wasn't, and I'm not. Where can I apply for my portion of white privilege? /s
Oh wait, maybe it's not about skin color after all?

You get it everyday whether you acknowledge it or not. Ignorance to the concept, or of what the concept entails doesn't make it not exist or mean you haven't benefited.

You don't need to feel guilty about it, you didn't do anything wrong, but that doesn't mean that there aren't challenges that other people experience that you never will

I understand the original concept and how it has been changed and effectively weaponized to guilt trip people into silence and to delegitimize counter-argument. It does not surprise me it has been hijacked because I never agreed with the original racist concept, to begin with. It is making assumptions about a person based on race which is racist. It is a flawed approach to the black disadvantage in America by distracting from the real problem, people and institutions that discriminate and because two wrongs do not make a right.

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"SJW" is an epithet given to a certain group of ultra-left extremists, and is used by pretty much everyone who is not ultra-left.

SJW's have always existed in one way or another just with a different name. Also, their views or elements of it have more popularity in colleges and in companies considered trendsetters. Another words that type of thinking and attitude is arguably our future and that is part of what the backlash against them is about. While I hope the backlash is successful I am not optimistic about it happening because SJW's tend to be younger and understand how to use newer technology to force their agenda and run rings around us old farts.

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16 Jan 2018, 10:48 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

Forgive me for not taking an far-right blog as a serious source. I guess if white supremacists are offended by the notion, white privilege couldn't possibly exist? :roll:

Last I checked, Ben Shapiro (Who I don't follow, I just found out he helps run The Daily Wire) is married to a Morrocan Jewish woman and has no problem with SomeBlackGuy and Roaming Millenial. If he's a white supremacist, he's doing a horrible job at it.

Me a white supremacist? Get real. My dislike of rednecks should be proof enough for that.

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And you continue to prove you don't know jackshit about me or what my outlook is. I oppose rednecks just as much as I do SJWs like yourself. Then again, what does a barrel bottom scraper and copy-and-paste robot like you know? :roll:

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16 Jan 2018, 11:11 pm

Marknis wrote:

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Forgive me for not taking an far-right blog as a serious source. I guess if white supremacists are offended by the notion, white privilege couldn't possibly exist? :roll:

I'm not suggesting Ben Shapiro personally is a white supremacist (only that his blog isn't a credible news source), but the main people who are offended by the concept of 'white privilege' are. I won't insist that you're a white supremacist, but 'hating rednecks' wouldn't prove that one is or isn't. That's like insisting 'I didn't eat breakfast today, I don't like toast.'

Rednecks aren't the only people who are white supremacists, not all rednecks are sympathetic to neo-confederate causes and it's unfair and unreasonable to assume they all would be. Many are, but certainly not all. Jeez, there's an ANTIFA sympathizing group called Redneck Revolt.

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16 Jan 2018, 11:18 pm

Trae Crowder, anyone?

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17 Jan 2018, 12:12 am

funeralxempire wrote:

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funeralxempire wrote:

Forgive me for not taking an far-right blog as a serious source. I guess if white supremacists are offended by the notion, white privilege couldn't possibly exist? :roll:

Anyone who insists I am a white supremacist despite my avatar and my interests really needs to come up in the world. My dislike of the concept of "white privelege" is because it implies all white people walk in lockstep but I can tell you from living in the Bible Belt how wrong that is. I've been called "weird", "gay", or "Satanic" by white Christians the most, even when I used to call myself a Christian. I know white Wiccans and white Christians hate them with a passion or atleast call their religion "silly".

And ANTIFA are a joke. They get their asses kicked more often than not. There's even a video where a black man stood up to a group of them and one of them punched him but he turned out to be a glass cannon when he got hit back. Redneck Revolt are not my friends. I don't fit in with any group. I stand alone in this life.

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17 Jan 2018, 10:26 am

JohnPowell wrote:

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Na, it's a polite label for people who see Nazis everywhere because of the indoctrination in the education system, TV and films.

Whilst that's it's primary use today, it was actually being used by SJWs themselves who used it in a positive or complimentary manner when referring to one another or themselves some 8+ years ago:

https://twitter.com/JPowers155/status/1816724365

There are older examples, such as this one, but it didn't come into widespread use until 2013 according to Google trends.

It most certainly is not "an epithet dreamed up by the Alt-Reich" (the irony...), as posited by Piobaire in what seems to be a bid to tar anyone who uses the term pejoratively - such as yourself - with the fascist brush.

The only noteworthy difference I can see between SJWs and fascists, is that hardcore SJWs are quick to denounce their pejorative label, whilst genuine fascists happily wear theirs as a badge of honour. They've formed a mutually dependent relationship whereby each serves as justification for the existence of the other, in an endless cycle of bickering, excrement-slinging, etc. Both groups have a penchant for garnering a great deal of media interest despite representing tiny ideological minorities and are frequently used by their opponents as exemplary of wider demographic groups based on mutual support for various issues.

Politics in 2018 better get its s**t together or we're in for an explosive year. Possibly literally.

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17 Jan 2018, 10:36 am

funeralxempire wrote:

I'm not suggesting Ben Shapiro personally is a white supremacist (only that his blog isn't a credible news source), but the main people who are offended by the concept of 'white privilege' are.

Hogwash.

Anyone who holds to the standard of individualism - that is to say most liberals (as opposed to Liberals) - finds the notion of collective rights, judgements, etc to be repugnant.

White supremacists, on the other hand, have absolutely no problem with any suggestion that people can be superior or advantaged by accident of birth due to their skin tone. They literally believe that being "white" is a genetically bestowed privilege, just as you do.

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17 Jan 2018, 4:17 pm

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White supremacists, on the other hand, have absolutely no problem with any suggestion that people can be superior or advantaged by accident of birth due to their skin tone. They literally believe that being "white" is a genetically bestowed privilege, just as you do.

No one claims white privilege is genetic, it's social by definition. Thanks for playing.

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17 Jan 2018, 4:24 pm

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Being a fan of anime wouldn't be evidence for or against, just ask the 4chan nazis.

I label people with that term based on the views they express, I haven't applied that label to you since I haven't read enough of your opinions on the matter to be able to have an opinion on if the label applies.

Not even all of the 'alt-right' are white supremacists, while they're almost universally western chauvinists, some appear to be much more moderate in regards to race than others. Even as far as white supremacists go, they don't all believe the same things, some are viciously anti-Semitic, but not all (for example).

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