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20 Feb 2017, 3:05 pm

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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Didn't stop liberals from making the accusation for 8 years, it didn't stop these very same people from painting all Trump supporters as the worst of the worst or 'deplorable' as you will. It's just reciprocation, this is where the rhetoric has been elevated too.

What needs to be done is a rejection of the hard left & it's identity politics in the Democratic Party which is the exact opposite of what they appear to be doing, it seems like the DNC may soon be electing an extremist chair who was once a member of the Nation of Islam as their party chairman. The Democratic Party is not going to win back the voters they lost doing what they're doing, they're not even trying and what they're doing is essentially running against ~50% of the population with no attempt at a 50 state strategy or being a big tent. Congressman Tim Ryan made this point when he ran for Speaker against Nancy Pelosi, he talked about the need to return to an inclusive economic message or else they will permanently lose places like Ohio/Wisconsin/Pennsylvania/Michigan.

The chaos that is enveloping the opposition tells me that Trump should aggressively move forward on all fronts, his 'triggering' of these folks and there insane reactions gets him even more votes. The left is too intolerant, it does not accept that half the country rejects their views and want the freedom to live their own lives so it castigates anyone that steps one foot off their enlightened as just straight up evil. They turn on Bill Maher because he had the nerve to interview Milo who their violent reactions to become more & more deranged to, they turned on Lady Gaga because she didn't commit career suicide at the Superbowl, they attack Democrats for even having dialogue with the president. If Democrats won't work with the president then in 2018 they will be replaced by people who will, does anybody seriously think this is how you win votes? This is ensuring a GOP supermajority in 2018.


You might as well be describing the right during the Obama years, as Republicans refused to work with him so deep was their dedication to see him a one term President. The right turned on Chris Christie for accepting Obama's help, following the storms that wrecked New Jersey - this after congressional Republicans from the south and Midwest refused to provide aid for New Jersey and New York in order to punish those hot beds of "cosmopolitan elitism."
And fair warning - if you guys on the right want to keep the support of the white working class, then actually support them and their organized labor representation, instead of forever backing the very big businesses that are responsible for working people's woes. Support raising the minimum wage, paid maternity leave, and benefits for all instead of chipping away at what our parents and grandparents had enjoyed with hollow promises of how we'll all be rich if there's just one more tax cut for the wealthy and corporations. WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! ALL YOU HAVE TO LOSE ARE YOUR CHAINS!! !!


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20 Feb 2017, 3:23 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


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20 Feb 2017, 3:34 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


There has also been a marked increase in hate crimes and hate groups inspired by Trump following the election.



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20 Feb 2017, 3:49 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


There has also been a marked increase in hate crimes and hate groups inspired by Trump following the election.


Well now, that's the hate group's problem - not Trumps. I'm just full of love myself - for the RIGHT people, that is. :mrgreen:


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20 Feb 2017, 3:56 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


There has also been a marked increase in hate crimes and hate groups inspired by Trump following the election.


Well now, that's the hate group's problem - not Trumps. I'm just full of love myself - for the RIGHT people, that is. :mrgreen:


I've seen too much hate from you on this board for that to be true. You may not be violent but you sure can be intolerant, insensitive and rude at times.

By the way, it is on Trump. He has emboldened them from the very start. You don't get to foment hatred then claim innocence when things boil over.



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20 Feb 2017, 4:00 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


There has also been a marked increase in hate crimes and hate groups inspired by Trump following the election.


Well now, that's the hate group's problem - not Trumps. I'm just full of love myself - for the RIGHT people, that is. :mrgreen:


I've seen too much hate from you on this board for that to be true. You may not be violent but you sure can be intolerant, insensitive and rude at times.

By the way, it is on Trump. He has emboldened them from the very start. You don't get to foment hatred then claim innocence when things boil over.


Dude, you definitely need to clean your own house first. I really do not get people like you at all. You are good to point out flaws in others, but don't see (or choose not to see) your own shortcomings. That's all I'm going to say about that.


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20 Feb 2017, 4:03 pm

No, go on Angela. I'm curious, what do you see as my flaws?



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20 Feb 2017, 4:08 pm

Lukeda420 wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


There has also been a marked increase in hate crimes and hate groups inspired by Trump following the election.


Well now, that's the hate group's problem - not Trumps. I'm just full of love myself - for the RIGHT people, that is. :mrgreen:


I've seen too much hate from you on this board for that to be true. You may not be violent but you sure can be intolerant, insensitive and rude at times.

By the way, it is on Trump. He has emboldened them from the very start. You don't get to foment hatred then claim innocence when things boil over.


Wait, I'm not done yet. Do you ever think that you get back from people what you do because of how you treat them? Take for instance me and Mr. D. Mr. D. thinks a lot along the same lines as you on several topics (which means he thinks the opposite of me, Wth?) and I think Mr. D. is a sweetie pie. Do you know why? It's how he talks to me about said topics. Think about that for awhile. Like they say "It's all in the delivery".

Now I have homework to do so I can watch my LOGO show tonight on QVC. :mrgreen: (I have more important things to do.)


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20 Feb 2017, 4:18 pm

Maybe the real problem is that Trump and his advisor's aren't quite smart enough to lead via executive order. It is like playing chess when you can only see one move ahead. You make a lot of bad moves because you can't calculate the consequences far enough into the future. Maybe it would help if he were more of a leader and got both parties to compromise and craft real legislation that he could sign?



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20 Feb 2017, 4:22 pm

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Do you ever think that you get back from people what you do because of how you treat them?

The irony of the above is beyond laughable.

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Don't let us keep you. Really .... don't.



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20 Feb 2017, 4:31 pm

Actually Angela, I get treated pretty well in my fail life, thankfully. So if what you say about getting what you put out is true than I must be doing pretty well. :D



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It's not an argument. It's a question. How is someone who does those things wonderful?


Many historical heroes have a checkered past. Many if not most respected monarchs, prime ministers, presidents and other leaders have said and done regrettable things. In his day, Abraham Lincoln was also greatly despised by half the people of the United States. But what kind of people were they? The people who despise Donald Trump are the type of whiny childish hypocrites who make myriad death threats, have been filmed rioting and pillaging, verbally and physically attacking people and so on.



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You have not answered my question. How is someone who does such things "wonderful"?



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It's not an argument. It's a question. How is someone who does those things wonderful?


Many historical heroes have a checkered past. Many if not most respected monarchs, prime ministers, presidents and other leaders have said and done regrettable things. In his day, Abraham Lincoln was also greatly despised by half the people of the United States. But what kind of people were they? The people who despise Donald Trump are the type of whiny childish hypocrites who make myriad death threats, have been filmed rioting and pillaging, verbally and physically attacking people and so on.



“You can always judge a man not by his friends, but by the quality of his enemies. A good man will never have enemies who are anything but petty and childish
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You have not answered my question. How is someone who does such things "wonderful"?


You'd have to have a cult like mindset to see it.



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Loud Muslim Call To Prayer In Times Square As Muslims Protest Trump, Shout ‘Allahu Akbar!’ (VIDEO). https://tiny.iavian.net/fd38


"Allahu Akbar" means "God is great". It's their version of your "Praise the Lord".



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Lukeda420 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
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Why thank you for the compliment. :)
Seriously, though, most people who dislike Trump are like Sweetleaf, AuntBlabby, and me. It's just that the loyal opposition doesn't get the press and ratings that violent anarchists do.


Well you know I don't like airing my opinions based on observation of what I see taking place, because of the fact that I like most individual leftists I know.

However I have to base my overall impression on what I see overall. As is the case with most anything involving a multitude. And what I've seen is a multitude of people behaving a certain way that causes me to conclude the multitude has very serious behavior issues. I think history is going to record post November 9th 2016, as when the multitude went completely off their rockers.


If that was true, though, then it could be argued that most conservatives were birthers and tea baggers, questioning President Obama's legitimacy with racist insults misspelled on signs and placards. But was that really most conservatives? I personally doubt it.


Still it's behavior that conservatives are remembered for. But seems to pale in comparison to the extreme level of craziness that's taken place and continues to place by liberals since the election. Especially seeing as how it's behavior they accused conservatives of committing if they lost the election, condemned it, and then did it themselves.


Yes, that is true. But did you ever consider the why behind the hysteria? Trump had gotten endorsements from white nationalists like David Duke, the Daily Stormer, Stormfront, the Heritage Foundation, and others with his talk about banning Muslim immigration, building a wall on the Mexican border to keep out illegals (code for Latinos in general among WN types), claiming that most white murder victims are killed by blacks (they aren't), not to mention his use of racist internet memes. And Trump's rejection of White nationalist support was tepid and late at best, not to mention how he's filled his White House staff with Alt Right white nationalists like Steve Bannon - the very same Steve Bannon who his daughter and son-in-law had tried convincing him to drop after his election. That is why liberals are flying into hysterics. Trump had opened the floodgate with the sort of support he courted without considering the consequences.


There has also been a marked increase in hate crimes and hate groups inspired by Trump following the election.


Indeed. Hence, the violence directed at times toward Trump supporters, as they all are associated with Alt Right white nationalist types whether they are or not.


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