Are many autistics racist?
thomas81
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There was one manager girl who was Puerto Rican, and a guy a few years younger who was also Puerto Rican. I was new to the job, and one day I saw the two of them running around joking after hours. Like brother and sister.
Knowing there were a few other siblings combos working there, I asked if they were brother and sister. The Puerto Rican girl went NUTS on me. "Oh, because we're both hispanic we're related?? Why do you white people always think that!!," etc. etc.
To be fair to her, she probably couldnt think of a more neutral sounding term to refer to your demographic. She can't say 'you Americans' because she is an American citizen herself and if her personal experience has conditioned her to think that white people always think she is related to her male colleague, then well, I can't really blame her.
Its a small matter though, and not really analogous to the common prejudice that black people are synonomous with gangbanging and car theft. Y'know, something that actually results in a disproportionately increased ethnic group prison population and police harrassment.
I think either you were feigning offence or being oversensitive.
Someone who is not hung-up on race chooses to walk up to a person they don't even know and ask about their partner's race in order to begin a friendship. That makes no sense whatsoever. There are a billion other questions she could have asked, especially if she wasn't concerned about race.
Its a small matter though, and not really analogous to the common prejudice that black people are synonomous with gangbanging and car theft.
I think either you were feigning offence or being oversensitive.
You missed the point. She was overly sensitive and taking too much offense to the question. Why would she feel the need to react that way? And why would you assume personal experience would "condition" her? I didn't say to her "all you hispanics look alike." I asked of her possible relation to the male worker based on all of the above together: 1) Their race 2) Their brother-sister nature 3) The prevalence of siblings working at that store.
She immediately assumed it must purely be based on #1 alone. This assumption is part of the PC conditioning. If white people bring up race in any way shape or form, or anything that may imply race is a factor, it's totally OK to take offense.
I took offense at the fact that she was offended and implied I was being racist.
I'm saying: who cares what her hang-up may be? Don't you be hung-up, too.
Besides, the fact that she's married to a black guy might be part of it. She's looking for commonality in interracial dating. She's white, he's black. In your case, though you were raised Japanese, she can probably tell you're racially mixed, so perhaps this was some sort of common ground, the inter-racial dating/marrying aspect.
I'm not sure where you got this "hang-up" issue from. It seems you are the one more hung up on this topic of race, not just with my story, but with others as well.
It does seem very, very odd that she would ask a question like that without even ever speaking to you before, and very rude as well. She sounds like a provocateur, TBH.
I'm not sure where you got this "hang-up" issue from. It seems you are the one more hung up on this topic of race, not just with my story, but with others as well.
And why do you feel that way about my responses to the others? Because I'm critical of political correctness?
I thought she was white based on what you said earlier. Remember, blacks are some of the most racially conscious people in American society. But what I was critical of is why you felt the need to go to great lengths in coming up with an answer.
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Its a small matter though, and not really analogous to the common prejudice that black people are synonomous with gangbanging and car theft.
I think either you were feigning offence or being oversensitive.
You missed the point. She was overly sensitive and taking too much offense to the question. Why would she feel the need to react that way? And why would you assume personal experience would "condition" her? I didn't say to her "all you hispanics look alike." I asked of her possible relation to the male worker based on all of the above together: 1) Their race 2) Their brother-sister nature 3) The prevalence of siblings working at that store.
She immediately assumed it must purely be based on #1 alone. This assumption is part of the PC conditioning. If white people bring up race in any way shape or form, or anything that may imply race is a factor, it's totally OK to take offense.
I took offense at the fact that she was offended and implied I was being racist.
I've had the same situation happen to me personally (people assuming I am related to someone simply because of race).
I think it was more about the question you chose to ask and how you chose to ask it. It would have been easier, in my opinion, to simply ask "How do you two know each other?".
When you are a minority in any country, to some extent you are more likely to stick together - having someone who won't take things the wrong way because of cultural differences is a nice change. Also remember that in most latino cultures, being more friendly than Americans are used to is just our version of "normal" - so by her standards she probably wasn't doing anything unusual.
I expect that if they don't look all that similar to one another except for race, that probably would have lead her to assume that you were basing it solely on race (even if that wasn't necessarily the case).
Not saying you don't have a point (you may very well, I was not there - the sibling prevelance would certainly play into it), but I thought I might offer up the other perspective.
It does get old when people here assume that I am related to someone because we are both latino, or that the guy I am talking to is my boyfriend because we are both latino (when that's never the case). When it happens enough times - you do tend to get rather sensitive about it. Personally I would shut my mouth and not say anything if you asked a question like that, after I gave you the answer but not everyone is inclined to do that.
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I tend to see that autistics go more towards the extremes. While on one hand many autistics have a worldview that has many racial stereotypes, I know many who go the other direction and then are antifascist, anti-sexist, anti-ableist and anti-whatever-else-social-justice-warriors-are-against. While I tend to go toward the latter, I am not as ideological and consider myself just an egalitarian.
I'm the exact opposite.
I'm a half breed between two cultures (both white) and was raised constantly switching between dialects and languages.
I have very little trouble with other cultures, and I love to be surrounded by them. I've lived in environments where I was one of the few white people (in Africa) and also I've been to house parties where I'm the only white person and there would be a hundred or so black people.
I find other cultures more willing to pin my oddities on my culture and thus I am more readily accepted. I am easily able to bring people of different cultures together in a way I haven't seen others do. I'm kind of obessed with languages, culture, and history so I owe everything to that.
However, I wouldn't describe myself as being pro multiculturalism. For example I think the immigration policy in many European countries are complete garbage and many would be better off staying home. But I do think it's important to have people of different perspectives in one place. But don't bring it the sh***y people. Just the good ones.. bring them all if you have to!
I kind of scoff when people say things like "You know GumboShrimp, to me you're a real (African, Maghreb, French, Portuguese, Brazilian, Russian, Polish) s**t goes on. I just think to myself how silly it is that doing a select few things gets me "in". Why can only I decode culture in such a way? At least superficially. But it makes me sad that these people are being nice to me and they really don't understand what I am or where I'm coming from.
In the end I guess you could say I have a quite cynical view of multiculturalism, but I'm completely invested in making it fully functional for myself and those who will come after, if only out of a sort of hobby and quest for acceptance. After all, the more cultures and different people there are kicking around, the more aspies, autistics, and others will become accepted out of habit.
But yeah, flooding Sweden with a bunch of devout and unskilled Muslims is simply.. a big mistake. And only destined to create racism.
I cannot say whether people on the spectrum are racist or not but I agree with what you put because antifascist,anti sexist etc describes me pretty well.But its funny because I tend to find most of what some people call social justice warriors to be incredibly annoying because they have a tendency to go way to far,go after non-issues,cherry pick and forget about the context. I also don't particularly care for their devaluing of people experiences,thought and feelings or just assuming that everyone that disagrees with you in slightest is member of whatever group the hate filled circle jerk is about this time.I also despise the use of the word privilege which comes up a lot in Anarchist circles on the internet. There is nothing that angers me more than being told that I am privileged by some pretentious,middle class,elitist asswipe who could afford to go to college.Your not gonna be making many friends among groups you should be making friends in when you use words like privilege with all that word entails in peoples minds to describe someone or a group of people who might not feel very privileged.Which makes an uphill battle because many of these people have been wedged from doing whats best for them and many others by people using wedge issues,racism and misogyny to get them into their camp.There are some people who will never see reason,but there are others who can but get angry,and scared away because of the language used by some of these people,or the fact that devalue situation because so and so has it worse.They really should realize that its not hard to throw people a bone once and while by saying we are against[insert problem here] but this other issue that doesn't effect our main group focus is also BS and needs to go. But in the end screw Racism.
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Nice message, but 200 years from now disscissions like this will still continue because racisim will still continue to flourish as it does today. It's not about race or religion, but about ego. If everyone looked the same there would just be something else for people to hate. Think differences in how the human brain is wired.
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My point is simple: there are weak people and strong, intelligent and dumb, hardworking and lazy. So as with nations - genetics acts and we have nations which can be significantly stronger than most of others, or more intelligent, or with any other advantages.
I completely can't understand why it is normal to praise strong and clever person but it is racism to praise strong and clever nation. That's just funny.
Of course some nations are less intelligent than others but they have their own advantages - best running for example.
Racism is a code word for Anti-White; if you don't believe me, than answer me this: Why is immigration only enforced on White nations?
Here is something for you to ponder: Arab nations for Arabs, Asian nations for Asians, Black nations for Blacks, Hispanic nations for Hispanics, Jewish nations for Jews but White nations for everybody.
You say people are racist to a certain degree. But I cannot see how I could be or why I should be. The whole race debate is super annoying simply because of things that are irrational in my mind such as nationalism or treating someone differently because of traits. The only thing that counts for me is personality. If someone is a dick, then of course I will not like him. If someone is aggressive, of course I will avoid them. But I just simply not get why people treat others differently just because of the color of their skin.
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