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08 Jan 2011, 5:11 pm

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Thanks again for proving me right. The group you cite is smearing Soros because he won't blindly support the state of Israel. He is a heretic for daring to think critically and support causes that go against the grain for people of his particular background. A holocaust survivor questioning the actions of the state of Israel? A billionaire hedge fund manager questioning the feasibility of unrestrained global capitalism? Heretic! Burn him!

This has nothing to do with his actions as a 14 year old. The quotes from his book are obviously being taken way out of context.

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08 Jan 2011, 7:35 pm

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The quote is from an interview he had about the book, if you bothered to actually find what Glenn Beck said in context and the evidence he gave, which you just proved you did not, I seriously think if you looked at it objectively you would have the same questions Glenn Beck does about Soros.

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09 Jan 2011, 5:32 am

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Glenn Beck thinks that the freaking Tides Foundation is a malevolent force and part of secret, conspiratorial networks. He is not a credible source.

The telling thing about all the conservatives who cite Beck is that there are intelligent, fact-checking, credible conservative thinkers out there - why don't you cite Thomas Sowell? He may not offer wildly misrepresented or outright fake stories to arouse and offend the way Beck does, but he actually knows what he's talking about. Would you simply rather indulge in the "FEMA's building death camps! Shirley Sherrod hates white people! VAST KENYAN MUSLIM SOCIALIST CONSPIRACY!!1!1!" game than engage in serious political discussion like a grown-up?

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09 Jan 2011, 7:43 pm

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

marshall wrote:

Glenn Beck thinks that the freaking Tides Foundation is a malevolent force and part of secret, conspiratorial networks. He is not a credible source.

The telling thing about all the conservatives who cite Beck is that there are intelligent, fact-checking, credible conservative thinkers out there - why don't you cite Thomas Sowell? He may not offer wildly misrepresented or outright fake stories to arouse and offend the way Beck does, but he actually knows what he's talking about. Would you simply rather indulge in the "FEMA's building death camps! Shirley Sherrod hates white people! VAST KENYAN MUSLIM SOCIALIST CONSPIRACY! !1!1!" game than engage in serious political discussion like a grown-up?

Well thank you for showing that you have no idea what you are talking about. I can debunk you right off the bat.

Fact: Glenn Beck didn't even comment on the Sherrod case until after he had the facts, and then he sided with Miss. Sherrod. I am not even going to waste my time with the rest of your rant.

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09 Jan 2011, 7:46 pm

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Uh, if what you were saying is true, he wouldn't be pissing off George Soros on a daily basis.

You have a (very partial) point there. Xenon13 probably should re-evaluate his "homogenously conservative elite" model and replace it with the "high-tech, low labour intensity liberal/low-tech, high labour intensitiy conservative polarized" model of the plutocracy people like Thomas Feurgeuson have devised.

Funny thing is, the bosses I have worked for that have treated myself and other employees well, tend to be conservatives, the ones that do their best to screw the employees over tend to be liberals. That kind of contradicts your rational doesn't it?

Why would that be the case? I think liberals have a very weird worldview, but I've never really thought of em as power hungry.

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09 Jan 2011, 11:02 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

marshall wrote:

Glenn Beck thinks that the freaking Tides Foundation is a malevolent force and part of secret, conspiratorial networks. He is not a credible source.

The telling thing about all the conservatives who cite Beck is that there are intelligent, fact-checking, credible conservative thinkers out there - why don't you cite Thomas Sowell? He may not offer wildly misrepresented or outright fake stories to arouse and offend the way Beck does, but he actually knows what he's talking about. Would you simply rather indulge in the "FEMA's building death camps! Shirley Sherrod hates white people! VAST KENYAN MUSLIM SOCIALIST CONSPIRACY! !1!1!" game than engage in serious political discussion like a grown-up?

I was not attributing those particular beliefs to Glenn Beck, but to a way of thinking which he engages in and endorses. I understand that you probably just don't want to address my points, but if that's the case, you should at least admit it.

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09 Jan 2011, 11:06 pm

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

marshall wrote:

Glenn Beck thinks that the freaking Tides Foundation is a malevolent force and part of secret, conspiratorial networks. He is not a credible source.

The telling thing about all the conservatives who cite Beck is that there are intelligent, fact-checking, credible conservative thinkers out there - why don't you cite Thomas Sowell? He may not offer wildly misrepresented or outright fake stories to arouse and offend the way Beck does, but he actually knows what he's talking about. Would you simply rather indulge in the "FEMA's building death camps! Shirley Sherrod hates white people! VAST KENYAN MUSLIM SOCIALIST CONSPIRACY! !1!1!" game than engage in serious political discussion like a grown-up?

Points? It looked more like a slew of left wing bull as seen on MSNBC.

How about you just admit that you are wrong concerning Glenn Beck when it comes to Shirley Sherrod for starters then maybe I will actually look at what you posted instead of dismissing it as garbage.

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09 Jan 2011, 11:45 pm

Inuyasha wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

Inuyasha wrote:

marshall wrote:

Glenn Beck thinks that the freaking Tides Foundation is a malevolent force and part of secret, conspiratorial networks. He is not a credible source.

The telling thing about all the conservatives who cite Beck is that there are intelligent, fact-checking, credible conservative thinkers out there - why don't you cite Thomas Sowell? He may not offer wildly misrepresented or outright fake stories to arouse and offend the way Beck does, but he actually knows what he's talking about. Would you simply rather indulge in the "FEMA's building death camps! Shirley Sherrod hates white people! VAST KENYAN MUSLIM SOCIALIST CONSPIRACY! !1!1!" game than engage in serious political discussion like a grown-up?

I wasn't right or wrong about Glenn Beck promoting those particular points, because I wasn't SAYING that Glenn Beck promotes those particular points. :roll:

Why are all your reference points for information enormous corporate media outlets? There *is* such a thing as political science, you know - including political science that supports your positions! There are also media outlets on *all* sides with a generally higher intelligence quotient and level of argumentation than Fox or MSNBC could ever provide. Ever heard of The Weekly Standard or The National Review?

Your idea of "left-wing" is much of the world's idea of "centrist."

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09 Jan 2011, 11:48 pm

I know National Review and Weekly Standard are conservative generally.

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09 Jan 2011, 11:52 pm

Well, it's nice that you're at least aware of them, even if you prefer the rubbish at Fox to the better-argued and more lucid rubbish at WS and NR.

Would you be kind enough to at least address my points about Jewish politics and the Jewish community?

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09 Jan 2011, 11:58 pm

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My point has to do with the idea that the ADL misinterpretted what Beck was saying.

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10 Jan 2011, 12:09 am

Inuyasha wrote:

PanoramaIsland wrote:

My point has to do with the idea that the ADL misinterpretted what Beck was saying.

I know.

Ya know what? Never mind. You clearly refuse to consider the idea that maybe, just maybe, Jewish politics are complicated and way over your head. I'm wasting my time arguing with you.

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