Is it morally wrong to not support the troops?

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Of course it was. The Marines have traditionally had the worst retention rate out of any of the services; therefore, the government, wanting to attract more jarheads, sweetened the pot.

Of course, a program like that does absolutely nothing for non-Marines.



Agreed.



Well, I can't speak for your area, but, IN GENERAL, veterans are preferred for law enforcement jobs because the cultures are quite similar. As for minorities, that's affirmative action for you. I only get 5 extra points on the civil service exam, so I'm much more likely to get hired as a cop based on my vagina than on my military service. Which is extremely silly.



Which only really applies to veteran's who have been trained to have skills the private sector values, which isn't the majority of vets. Most enlisted military work is grunt work and, if you don't have a degree, you're not in any better of a position than you were before you joined. "Military experience" is not the same as "real world experience." Speaking from personal experience, no one cares how fast I can change a boost pump.



I really think it's the area you live in. First, simply being in the military does not confer "top notch skills." Secondly, if you see vets with advantages, it probably has more to do with the GI Bill. Third, for every civilian who worships veterans, you have another who thinks you're a baby killer (note this thread).

BTW, any intelligent Aspie has loads to offer an employer, military or not. Anyone who says you're not as "good" as a vet is a buffoon.



Ouch.

Being denied the chance to serve when you want to can be a real kick in the pants. Please keep in mind that there are many ways to serve your country, and the military isn't even the most important. Without doctors, teachers, artists, scientists, ect. we wouldn't have a civilization for soldiers to defend. As for the "adoration," society doesn't owe veterans squat in terms of" hero worship." I hate that crap.

You're in no way "inferior" to military personnel.

Point taken, but a lot of people leave highschool not knowing which of the above they want to be, and not having the funds to do any schooling. The military is a pretty tempting choice for that demographic, I mean they get you out of dodge, give you a different perspective on life, and they pay for your college when it's all done. If I fit that demographic and was denied that opportunity to escape, I would be kind of bitter myself. I think it would be great if the US had an equivalant program that gave people jobs and helped them through college later on.

Actually, men and women in blue. Your cynicism and sarcasm doesn't serve you here. I understand how you wanted to say this to avoid acknowledging the fact that the TSA's mere EXISTANCE is a testament to how our civil liberties are being gradually eroded. As Benjamin Franklin once said:

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."



Then I say to you that your understanding of my understanding is incomplete and your subsequent opinion on it is therefore invalid. I oppose violence in any shape or form. There is NOTHING productive that has EVER come from the use or advocation of violence.



If the goal is for you to consider the validity of my points then you must do your own thinking to decide for yourself whether you agree. Coz it would be a waste of both of our time for me to do all the donkey work for you. I can tell you this stuff till the end of time. But until you research it for yourself, that truth will not appear to you. Truth cannot be told. It can only be realised.



And since you have made it clear that your tactic of disregarding anything I put forth is the differing "interpretation" of evidence, then you are making yourself immune to any information that may change your mind. Nothing will be good enough for you. Tell me exactly what WOULD satisfy your expectations and I will provide it. From there its down to you. If you STILL refuse to see it, then your lack of understanding is down to your inability to absorb information. NOT my inability as a communicator.



Again, you have shown that if you encounter information contrary to your already fixed perception, then you choose to "interpret" it as false.

OF COURSE our individual definitions of "separation", and "togetherness" are gonna be different. However I'm not in your head so it is impossible for me to align my definition with yours and hense cause you to see. Besides, you are claiming your own personal interpretation of definitions as empirical truth.



Then please enlighten us. However please keep under advisory that you need to define your terms first so others who read it can gain an angle of your frame of reference.



Then WHAT IS violence to you if NOT morally right? keep in mind that it is either right, or wrong. Grey area only exists for the subjectivity of differing individual perception.



Thankyou for your acknowledgment that violence separates people.



Pot, kettle, black?



Exactly. So please don't ask for such let alone act as one yourself.



Yes, thankyou, you have already demonstrated that anything can be anything dependant upon "interpretation". Just tell that to the billions of people who have suffered at the hands of violence. Kill one person, and we call it murder. Kill 1000 and we call it foreign policy.



I have not "asked" you to do anything but to do your own research on what I talk about and make up your own mind about whether you agree or not. Your "interpretations" will not help you when you need to see things objectively.



I'm not asking you to. I am merely stating that they function PERFECTLY well WITHOUT violence. The non-aggression principle provably works.



Given the fact that we have Solar, space-based solar, wind, tidal, wave and not to mention geothermal energy capabilities, each by themselves has the capacities to REPLACE oil, there is no reason WHATSOEVER that we need to burn a single drop of oil EVER again.

And if you're talking about oil in production terms, you should research 2 techs that have been in existance for the last 30 years. Its called 3-D Printing, and Contour Crafting.



Who says I'm here to change your mind, or if that is my responsibility? I have repeatedly stated that your decision to agree with me or not is your own. However it is when you state erroneous responses which you have inherited from your indoctrination to bolster your stances, that I have to call you out on it.