Whost else thinks cremation should be banned?

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08 Dec 2011, 12:14 pm

In a country that advocates separation of Church and State, what possible grounds would there be for outlawing cremation? There are none I can imagine.



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08 Dec 2011, 12:25 pm

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In one of my first English classes in college, we read a paper on the embalming process.
This is the worst way to "honor" the dead person, since they suck out the fluids, stuff with padding and preservatives, sew the mouth closed (and eyes sometimes), it's really gross and an insult to the dead.
*Now in the case of an autopsy, that is different if it is deemed necessary to find out why the person died or who killed them.


I haven't read a lot about embalming but I thing it's pretty gross.

I also think tv has been lying to me and misleading me. How many sci-fi fantasy shows show vampires rising from their graves where people who thought they were dead had buried them? Does no one in Sunnydale get embalmed? Surely embalming would kill a not yet risen vampire.



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08 Dec 2011, 12:48 pm

I have heard the eyes of corpses are glued shut, not sewn.
One of the reasons for embalming is that it prevents "dead" people waking up six feet under. I'm sure you've heard stories of people waking up in the morgue? It does happen occasionally even today, and exhumed bodies have also been found with the interior of the casket scratched to bits.



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08 Dec 2011, 12:50 pm

hanyo wrote:
I also think tv has been lying to me and misleading me. How many sci-fi fantasy shows show vampires rising from their graves where people who thought they were dead had buried them? Does no one in Sunnydale get embalmed? Surely embalming would kill a not yet risen vampire.


:D I think vampires are reanimated by unholy magicks, so it might not need intact organs. Do they feed off nutrients in blood or the life force of the victim carried in the blood? Maybe they'd have to use holy water in the embalming process to keep 'em down.


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08 Dec 2011, 12:54 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
I have heard the eyes of corpses are glued shut, not sewn.
One of the reasons for embalming is that it prevents "dead" people waking up six feet under. I'm sure you've heard stories of people waking up in the morgue? It does happen occasionally even today, and exhumed bodies have also been found with the interior of the casket scratched to bits.


That's not a good reason to embalm. Then instead of waking up in their coffin they would get killed by the embalming process.



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08 Dec 2011, 12:54 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
I have heard the eyes of corpses are glued shut, not sewn.
One of the reasons for embalming is that it prevents "dead" people waking up six feet under. I'm sure you've heard stories of people waking up in the morgue? It does happen occasionally even today, and exhumed bodies have also been found with the interior of the casket scratched to bits.


Sounds like a better argument for "no coffin, shallow grave" than embalming. Maybe throw in a breathing tube for good measure. Oh, except insects might crawl down the tube. Only thing worse I could imagine than waking up in a coffin would be waking up buried under a couple feet of dirt, only to find your lungs slowly filling with fire ants. No thanks! I'll skip the breathing tube.


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08 Dec 2011, 12:57 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
I have heard the eyes of corpses are glued shut, not sewn.
One of the reasons for embalming is that it prevents "dead" people waking up six feet under. I'm sure you've heard stories of people waking up in the morgue? It does happen occasionally even today, and exhumed bodies have also been found with the interior of the casket scratched to bits.


That's a pretty good reason to become cremated, I sure as heck wouldn't want to buried with the possibility of that happening, unless they put a cell phone in there with me, so I could call my family and the cemetery caretakers. The phone should have a high capacity battery, because I don't want to be in the same predicament as Ryan Reynolds in the movie Buried. Heck, maybe I'll keep that regular battery, sounds like a better story to sell.

If not that, then just pour a vat of sulfuric acid into my casket.



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08 Dec 2011, 1:00 pm

Some wealthy Victorians had bells installed at the surface, with a pull-cord running down into the casket. Just in case.



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08 Dec 2011, 1:04 pm

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Some wealthy Victorians had bells installed at the surface, with a pull-cord running down into the casket. Just in case.


I bet the Undertaking profession was a lot more interesting back then. Must've been stressful, wondering whether the rich bell ringer should be saved from a horrible death, or if it was just another vampire/zombie trying to lure you into releasing them.


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08 Dec 2011, 1:05 pm

I wonder if local children ever rang them and ran?



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08 Dec 2011, 1:23 pm

Burnbridge wrote:
YippySkippy wrote:
Some wealthy Victorians had bells installed at the surface, with a pull-cord running down into the casket. Just in case.


I bet the Undertaking profession was a lot more interesting back then. Must've been stressful, wondering whether the rich bell ringer should be saved from a horrible death, or if it was just another vampire/zombie trying to lure you into releasing them.


A windy day would have been pretty stressful.



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08 Dec 2011, 1:29 pm

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I wonder if local children ever rang them and ran?


I bet they called it a Ding, Ditch & Dig. Or: The Bell who Cried "Gotcha!"

"That do be the last false bell that do I be digging for!" said Old Man Burnbridge, casting aside the shovel and returning to his midnight repast of Graham's Crackers and a jug of Rye. When the next Robber Baron was interred, he made due haste to set about disarming that noxious contraption, before it's jangling could disturb his reverie.

Do keep in mind that the safety bells went out of style.


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08 Dec 2011, 6:07 pm

It should also be mentionned that cremation is a current practice in quite a few other religions, including hinduism, which IIRC, you have quite the population in either the States or the UK (moreso in the UK). <.< Might not be the most intelligent thing to alienate them like this.



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06 Jul 2015, 7:10 am

weddingscene wrote:
I think body liquefaction ....is the better technique than cremation ..........


I am not agree with your technique.



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06 Jul 2015, 7:23 am

BenHebrew: This thread is almost 4 years old----NOT that it's not still relevant----I just wanted to let you know that the person you quoted, might not respond to you, as they might not still be here.












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