Redneck vs. Hillbilly
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27 Jan 2018, 4:32 pm
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Then what do you call someone from the hills of Kentucky?
A redneck. And probably an inbred one too.
I'm betting Australia is chock full of what we Yanks would call rednecks.
It's not people from the country you have to worry about in Australia, it's the people from the suburbs. To live in the country you need some reason to be there, you have to have some specialised skill such as farming, mining or truck driving.
You don't even need a job to live in the suburbs and idle hands are the devil's playthings. We can them bogans. The meaning is similar to redneck except they live in the suburbs. I think the real reason these people turn to crime is not because they're poor but because they're bored.
I'll never get robbed or beaten by a farmer because a farmer is too busy for petty crime. Farmers don't have the time for that stuff and neither do miners. But an unemployed suburbanite has all the time in the world and also a desire to prove his own importance.
What you describe (bogans) does not sound like rednecks to me. It sounds simply like the urban underclass you can find in any modern nation.
Rednecks are unsophisticated, usually undereducated people who live usually in rural or non urban areas. Not always criminal or bad. But people of the land, who live by hunting and fishing for example. Usually very religious. And not very progressive in their views (racist, sexist, homophobic, etc).
Now the wild areas of Australia are I'm guessing *VERY* wild. And I thought this would be a prime breeding ground for what we Yanks would call rednecks. In my mind, I guess I was thinking of Crockadile Dundee as an "Australian redneck".
I've highlighted the parts that apply to bogans in red.
Yes, the wild areas of Australia are very wild. Anyone who can survive in those areas has my respect. I wouldn't call them unsophisticated.
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29 Jan 2018, 3:54 pm
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Then what do you call someone from the hills of Kentucky?
A redneck. And probably an inbred one too.
I'm betting Australia is chock full of what we Yanks would call rednecks.
It's not people from the country you have to worry about in Australia, it's the people from the suburbs. To live in the country you need some reason to be there, you have to have some specialised skill such as farming, mining or truck driving.
You don't even need a job to live in the suburbs and idle hands are the devil's playthings. We can them bogans. The meaning is similar to redneck except they live in the suburbs. I think the real reason these people turn to crime is not because they're poor but because they're bored.
I'll never get robbed or beaten by a farmer because a farmer is too busy for petty crime. Farmers don't have the time for that stuff and neither do miners. But an unemployed suburbanite has all the time in the world and also a desire to prove his own importance.
What you describe (bogans) does not sound like rednecks to me. It sounds simply like the urban underclass you can find in any modern nation.
Rednecks are unsophisticated, usually undereducated people who live usually in rural or non urban areas. Not always criminal or bad. But people of the land, who live by hunting and fishing for example. Usually very religious. And not very progressive in their views (racist, sexist, homophobic, etc).
Now the wild areas of Australia are I'm guessing *VERY* wild. And I thought this would be a prime breeding ground for what we Yanks would call rednecks. In my mind, I guess I was thinking of Crockadile Dundee as an "Australian redneck".
I've highlighted the parts that apply to bogans in red.
Yes, the wild areas of Australia are very wild. Anyone who can survive in those areas has my respect. I wouldn't call them unsophisticated.
Also on rednecks: they usually have a lot more kids then they can afford. This is usually due to simple lack of self control. And although most claim to hate the government, many are on the dole.
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29 Jan 2018, 4:10 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
Crocodile Dundee would not be a "redneck," except perhaps under the old definition.
He might be a "hayseed" or a "hick."
He certainly wouldn't be a "bogan."
He might be a "hayseed" or a "hick."
He certainly wouldn't be a "bogan."
Ok. Remember the scene in that movie when that hoodlom tries to rob Croc with a little Swiss Army knife, and Croc just smiles and says "Thats not a knife" then pulls out his Rambo knife "Thats a knife"? If I read this right, Croc might see the kid who tried to rob him as a bogan.
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29 Jan 2018, 4:14 pm
RainbowUnion wrote:
Also on rednecks: they usually have a lot more kids then they can afford. This is usually due to simple lack of self control.
It's actually because they believe that non-reproductive sex is sinful.
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29 Jan 2018, 4:20 pm
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
Also on rednecks: they usually have a lot more kids then they can afford. This is usually due to simple lack of self control.
It's actually because they believe that non-reproductive sex is sinful.
Nope, not true at all. NOT AT ALL. They just love to fkk and dont like using protection.
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29 Jan 2018, 6:40 pm
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Then what do you call someone from the hills of Kentucky?
A redneck. And probably an inbred one too.
I'm betting Australia is chock full of what we Yanks would call rednecks.
It's not people from the country you have to worry about in Australia, it's the people from the suburbs. To live in the country you need some reason to be there, you have to have some specialised skill such as farming, mining or truck driving.
You don't even need a job to live in the suburbs and idle hands are the devil's playthings. We can them bogans. The meaning is similar to redneck except they live in the suburbs. I think the real reason these people turn to crime is not because they're poor but because they're bored.
I'll never get robbed or beaten by a farmer because a farmer is too busy for petty crime. Farmers don't have the time for that stuff and neither do miners. But an unemployed suburbanite has all the time in the world and also a desire to prove his own importance.
What you describe (bogans) does not sound like rednecks to me. It sounds simply like the urban underclass you can find in any modern nation.
Rednecks are unsophisticated, usually undereducated people who live usually in rural or non urban areas. Not always criminal or bad. But people of the land, who live by hunting and fishing for example. Usually very religious. And not very progressive in their views (racist, sexist, homophobic, etc).
Now the wild areas of Australia are I'm guessing *VERY* wild. And I thought this would be a prime breeding ground for what we Yanks would call rednecks. In my mind, I guess I was thinking of Crockadile Dundee as an "Australian redneck".
I've highlighted the parts that apply to bogans in red.
Yes, the wild areas of Australia are very wild. Anyone who can survive in those areas has my respect. I wouldn't call them unsophisticated.
Also on rednecks: they usually have a lot more kids then they can afford. This is usually due to simple lack of self control. And although most claim to hate the government, many are on the dole.
Bogans do both of those things as well. They have more kids than they can afford and they live on the dole.
While I wouldn't call bogans right wing (more like they're apolitical), they're generally mistrustful of the government. Many of them believe in conspiracy theories about the government .
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30 Jan 2018, 5:55 pm
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Then what do you call someone from the hills of Kentucky?
A redneck. And probably an inbred one too.
I'm betting Australia is chock full of what we Yanks would call rednecks.
It's not people from the country you have to worry about in Australia, it's the people from the suburbs. To live in the country you need some reason to be there, you have to have some specialised skill such as farming, mining or truck driving.
You don't even need a job to live in the suburbs and idle hands are the devil's playthings. We can them bogans. The meaning is similar to redneck except they live in the suburbs. I think the real reason these people turn to crime is not because they're poor but because they're bored.
I'll never get robbed or beaten by a farmer because a farmer is too busy for petty crime. Farmers don't have the time for that stuff and neither do miners. But an unemployed suburbanite has all the time in the world and also a desire to prove his own importance.
What you describe (bogans) does not sound like rednecks to me. It sounds simply like the urban underclass you can find in any modern nation.
Rednecks are unsophisticated, usually undereducated people who live usually in rural or non urban areas. Not always criminal or bad. But people of the land, who live by hunting and fishing for example. Usually very religious. And not very progressive in their views (racist, sexist, homophobic, etc).
Now the wild areas of Australia are I'm guessing *VERY* wild. And I thought this would be a prime breeding ground for what we Yanks would call rednecks. In my mind, I guess I was thinking of Crockadile Dundee as an "Australian redneck".
I've highlighted the parts that apply to bogans in red.
Yes, the wild areas of Australia are very wild. Anyone who can survive in those areas has my respect. I wouldn't call them unsophisticated.
Also on rednecks: they usually have a lot more kids then they can afford. This is usually due to simple lack of self control. And although most claim to hate the government, many are on the dole.
Bogans do both of those things as well. They have more kids than they can afford and they live on the dole.
While I wouldn't call bogans right wing (more like they're apolitical), they're generally mistrustful of the government. Many of them believe in conspiracy theories about the government .
Oh we Yanks LOVE conspiracy theories. JFK and 9-11 were inside jobs and the moon landings were faked are at the top of our list. Whats on top of the list in The Land Down Under?
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