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23 Dec 2012, 7:42 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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They did it's just they are met with so much opposition. Bikers form a human wall between them and the people attending the services.

They met with opposition when they protested the place I attended high school also. People go and oppose them and now they mostly stay in Kansas.


I was referring to the deal one of the WBC women supposedly made with some popular guy on YouTube. It's in a thread somewhere here.

I apologize for misunderstanding. Should have read further back, eh?



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23 Dec 2012, 7:50 pm

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There's no page at all. Just a 503 if I remember correctly.


I had just looked at it. Why would you question that?



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23 Dec 2012, 8:06 pm

I just looked again. They replaced their error message with a temp page like you said but earlier there was nothing but the error message. These people will never understand. Jesus never alienated this many with his message so why would they? They are relentless.



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23 Dec 2012, 8:50 pm

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What if it does have a mind? I could give a list of reasons why I believe God to be a sentient, sapient being, but none of them are what you would consider "conclusive". I just feel it's more likely.


Feelings are just feelings, though.

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From what I have read, the Christian idea of God sounds more like what I feel God would be like than the Muslim idea.


Again, it's based on what you feel God should be. How can one argue against that?

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Another flawed analogy. Saving someone from harm is different from depriving people of free will. I have to imagine that if God intervened every time someone was about to do something wrong you or someone else would be on this forum complaining that God is a tyrant.


I know I wouldn't. I'd have been the first to worship him!

And, no, it's not a flawed analogy. If you'd go out of your way to protect a child from harm in the described scenario, then you'd be doing what God fails to do every now and then any time a human gets hurt.

You certainly wouldn't consider the "free will" of the assaulter, would you? Why should God then be different?

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Yes you do need to answer that because you presumably believe the physical world is real, but if you have no conclusive evidence that it is real this means you would have to accept that having faith in something without conclusive evidence isn't inherently irrational.

So conclusive evidence please.


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23 Dec 2012, 9:18 pm

I feel there is a difference between a human stopping another human from doing something and God stopping a human from doing something... But it's tough to explain exactly why.

I am not conclusive evidence that the physical world exists. I could just be a figment of your imagination dreamed up so you could debate with someone.



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23 Dec 2012, 9:21 pm

True, you could be a figment of my imagination for all I know, but evidence doesn't necessarily point to what's really true, but to what's more likely to be true and what's reasonable to accept as truth.



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24 Dec 2012, 1:40 am

God isn't real, there's no proof he exists and knowing there isn't any proof that he does is proof enough he doesn't exist! I'm not saying its ok to be immoral and treat people like crap lie cheat and steal or murder though or commit adultry that's just common sense.


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24 Dec 2012, 1:43 am

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I feel there is a difference between a human stopping another human from doing something and God stopping a human from doing something... But it's tough to explain exactly why.

I am not conclusive evidence that the physical world exists. I could just be a figment of your imagination dreamed up so you could debate with someone.
You could be a Christmas Keebler elf who makes ginger bread men and toys!


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24 Dec 2012, 12:50 pm

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God isn't real, there's no proof he exists and knowing there isn't any proof that he does is proof enough he doesn't exist! I'm not saying its ok to be immoral and treat people like crap lie cheat and steal or murder though or commit adultry that's just common sense.

No one really knows what's out there.



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24 Dec 2012, 12:56 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
God isn't real, there's no proof he exists and knowing there isn't any proof that he does is proof enough he doesn't exist! I'm not saying its ok to be immoral and treat people like crap lie cheat and steal or murder though or commit adultry that's just common sense.

No one really knows what's out there.


We know the planets and the stars are out there.

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24 Dec 2012, 12:57 pm

ruveyn wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
God isn't real, there's no proof he exists and knowing there isn't any proof that he does is proof enough he doesn't exist! I'm not saying its ok to be immoral and treat people like crap lie cheat and steal or murder though or commit adultry that's just common sense.

No one really knows what's out there.


We know the planets and the stars are out there.

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We have some idea of what's out there, not the whole picture.



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24 Dec 2012, 1:08 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
There's no page at all. Just a 503 if I remember correctly.


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HTTP Error 503 - Service unavailable

Introduction

The Web server (running the Web site) is currently unable to handle the HTTP request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay. Some servers in this state may also simply refuse the socket connection, in which case a different error may be generated because the socket creation timed out.


Thank you, Anonymous!

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