Creep Shaming?

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Also, thanks for knowing what it's like to be a woman, and telling me what we think and why we do the things we do, I don't have enough men telling me what it's like to be a woman.
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Except men that rape/kill women are usually sociopaths, and women aren't afraid of sociopaths most of the time at least initially, quite the opposite. It's how they're able to lure them in the first place. Sociopaths are experts at not appearing to be creepy at first, and they're the most likely ones to be sexual-predators by far.

You're welcome. And now I know that there's no chance a woman could get into a bad relationship, because women have "preternatural awareness" that they've developed over a lifetime that we men couldn't possibly understand. No way would a woman overlook a dangerous or abusive character because of something as shallow as charisma, or an athletic physique, or a nice car. They know a "creep" when they see one. And you know how we know they're a creep? Because they call them one. That's right. If a woman says a guy's a creep, it's a dead giveaway, and it must be true, because they never exaggerate or dramatize things, ever.
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Actually, this isn't true. Men who rape women often don't think that they've done anything wrong, and sometimes don't even recognize that the woman didn't enjoy the encounter; if they do, they may have such warped view of women as something other-than-human that they might feel worse about kicking a dog than raping a woman.

Calling someone a 'creep' isn't the same as 'expecting him to walk on eggshells.' It's basically a statement that 'I wouldn't feel comfortable alone with you in a deserted parking structure.'

The thing is, you aren't a woman, you can't read women's minds, and you don't get to decide what we feel threatened by.

. It means you need to cease and desist, whether or not YOU feel like what you're doing is not threatening. The term creep is used to express that, and to that person, you're a creep, regardless of your opinion of your own behavior.

It requires no action on your part, other than that you politely not try to maneuver her into a deserted parking lot or some similar structure.

. It means you need to cease and desist, whether or not YOU feel like what you're doing is not threatening.

And, again, often this learned uneasiness is *constructive* and protective to the woman in question. We're not talking about paranoia.

I don't think that guys, in general, recognize just how much time and energy women, in general, put into protecting themselves from men.

And I haven't even started on the psychological affect of creep shaming either. Although I should never call a girl overweight - when she is - she has every right to call me an ugly rapist. Fair? In the eyes of feminists, sure.

How is that NOT a sociopath? It's obvious that you and Meem are going to argue no matter how crazy your stance is getting.

No one's saying that women are psychic - just that women learn from experience, and women's experiences are different than men's.

And I have every right to consider her an idiot.

The hostility toward females on this website is becoming slightly overwhelming for me, to be honest.

Exactly. What I'd like to know, though, is why I should care what nasty girls think? They get a kick out of it because they know the victim is particularly sensitive to being labeled a creep. Been there, lived through that. What got me through those kinds of ordeals was learning to discern between what mattered and what didn't. I had the approval of two or three teachers at my school who fostered my creative bent and made sure I stayed on the right track to secure a good future in higher education and pursue the career I wanted. As an adult, I didn't really fit in in college at first, either. The only attention I really got from women kinda pushed me a bit to the fringe of college social circles, but I'd been involved in a LTR for a long time anyway so it didn't really matter all that much. It only became a concern when that relationship ended. And by that point I was well-enough acquainted with the right kind of women that, again, it didn't really matter. And, of course, as a grad student later on I was well-positioned enough to have a little fun with a couple of undergrads...

And now, of course, I'm married, so once again it makes no difference what anyone else thinks.

One of the biggest lessons I learned was if you want to be treated as an adult, i.e. no bullying, creep-shaming, and so on, then you hang out with adults or at least people who make the effort to act like adults. I'm aware that I come off as being a little creepy, so guess what? I tended to gravitate towards women who likewise came off as being a little creepy. Some of them happened to be attractive and sexy. Now, I'm going to distance myself from someone who, once I get to know her, is just downright psychotic. Once you hook up with Crazy, she's a b!tch to get rid of, and she'll make your life a living hell. Been there, barely survived that. What I will NOT do is badmouth her to anyone else. When the abusive relationship I'd been in for several years ended, I'd just tell people who knew us we'd simply gotten to the point where we mutually made each other unhappy and there was nowhere left for us to go together. She could badmouth me all she wanted, and she did, and it was sadly no different from when we'd been together.

No, I want someone who acts sensibly and doesn't resort to that kind of childish silliness.

The only harm I could see happening is if someone were to creep-shame me in front of someone who could possibly be an interest. However, my feelings on that is if a girl is shallow enough to fall for something like that from a friend she isn't worthy of my attention. Move on, next please...

Your best defense against creep-shaming is to just let it go and focus on things that are really important. Act like an adult and concentrate your efforts on associating with people interested in same.

Me too. Sometimes it makes me think of leaving.

Except men that rape/kill women are usually sociopaths, and women aren't afraid of sociopaths most of the time at least initially, quite the opposite. It's how they're able to lure them in the first place. Sociopaths are experts at not appearing to be creepy at first, and they're the most likely ones to be sexual-predators by far.

While being a woman is not something I'd consider you an expert on, the condition of being an idiot definitely is, so yeah, you have every right to call out your fellow idiots. Go on, consider me an idiot, I'll consider you an idiot, and we can call it a day.

Fin.