Is organised religion a general enemy of humanity?

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IMHO, Genesis describes the Jewish creation myth. It's not really that symbolic. I do think it's possible to be a Christian and believe parts of the Bible are not factual, so it doesn't matter except to people who believe in Biblical inerrancy (which is unfortunately quite a lot of people).

I know Christians from churches who don't teach Biblical inerrancy that still believe Genesis is literally true, but that's because they're dumb rather than because they're Christian.

Islam has a bigger problem in that Quranic inerrancy is central tenet of their mainstream beliefs.

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I have a version of the Holy Bible called "The Living Bible" that makes the first book of Genesis sound much more like a symbolic interpretation of the theory-of-evolution. I think it was designed for gullible Christians that take the regular bible literally. lol

For example, god creating "Adam and Eve" just means that god created various male/female humans. Not two individual people by those names.

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I have a copy of the "Jefferson Gospel" - a synthesis of one of the first four books of the New Testament that leaves out any mention of "miracles" or other alleged supernatural events

It's a very short book.

I can easily imagine how short it must be.

Uh, no. That would otherwise be very fascinating and a reason to consider the Bible as God's actual word.

Most Atheists probably take the bible literally which is part of the reason they dismiss it as complete fiction in the first place.

How else can atheists be convinced that the Bible actually promotes evolution?

Symbolically isn't going to cut it. As you can practically argue for anything as biblical by resorting to symbolism.

I don't have the qualifications to discuss this subject with authority, so I will say what I see.
It begins with the real words of your Prophet as you have expressed him.
The words of the Prophets are one, and the first word is always peace.

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Nope, nothing to do with the brain at all.

It is you who are wrong.
Evolution is and remains a theory.
In science there are theories, and there are laws.
Darwin's theory of evolution has never graduated into the status of a scientific law.


Your insistence of propounding a theory as a law shows your ignorance of science.

You have no clue what at theory is. Yes, evolution is a theory, that one is true. What is incorrect is your idea of theory in the science world.

I do think the bible was mostly intended to be read as a literal document (I'm an atheist), but some parts of it were probably intended to be read as symbolic.

Christians have the extremely hard task of working out which is which; that's why some take the easy way out and claim that it's all meant to be taken literally. I'm glad my belief system doesn't depend on interpreting such a difficult text, any more.

No, it is YOU who is wrong about this. You continue to display not only your ignorance of the vast amounts of evidence of many different types that all clearly show we share common ancestry with apes and other living forms, but also your ignorance of what science is and how it works including the definitions of scientific law compared to scientific theory.

Evolution is an observed testable demonstrable FACT of nature. There are theories of evolution to explain this fact. Gravity is an observed testable demonstrable fact of nature too. There are other theories to explain the fact of gravity. If you don't like reality, too bad. It is not going to go away no matter how willfully ignorant of it you choose to be.

And in this 21st century, there is NO EXCUSE for anyone who has access to the internet to have such abysmal ignorance on this subject. With all the information available to you 24/7 from all over the world, you are apparently limiting yourself to sources that ignore, deny or distort the evidence for evolution. Whatever your sources of information, they are wrong. Anyone (even you) can easily see with only a few minutes research that they are wrong. You are being lied to by sources you trust.

Had you considered a career as a lifeline telephone councillor?
Or as a motivational speaker perhaps?

Gravity is explained by Newton's Laws.
Where Charles Darwin's theory of evolution falls down is when the attempt is made to irrefutably directly link Homo Sapiens-Sapiens with the varieties and ancestors of Archaic sapiens which we displaced.
Which is to say Darwin's theory is correct, except for Homo Sapiens-Sapiens.

Some of it was probably just mistakes due to the lack of knowledge at the time. For example, in the story of "Noah's Flood" the whole world was supposedly covered in water. However, in actuality it was probably just the particular area of the world that Noah lived in which was flooded, but he mistakenly thought the entire world was covered in water just because he couldn't see beyond the horizon.