Margaret Thatcher has died

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10 Apr 2013, 7:03 am

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talk about being cut down in one's youth.

Well spare a thought for Jon-Paul Gilhooley please. He was 10 years old when died at Hillsborough!

what has that got to do with anything? was there any connection between him and thatcher? i looked up his name and i found that he was killed in a soccer stampede.
is there anything that sets his death apart from the deaths of other children? i can not see the significance of your point i am sorry.

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10 Apr 2013, 10:18 am

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Pretty much the last of the generation that ended the cold war.

I believe Lech Wałęsa is still alive, actually...

I would not exaggerate. As a Pole I really appreciate Mr. President Walesa, but not all are of the same opinion, some people say that when there was "socialism" live was better. Some say that without the help of the CIA and Reagan he wouldn't had gone so high, yet others say that President Walesa was an informer of the secret police SB.

Some people make fun of Intelligence Mr. President, comparing it to the intelligence of U.S. presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush

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10 Apr 2013, 10:31 am

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Erm, no kidding? If she had been Labour Party then she wouldn't have been the same Margaret Thatcher. She was the antithesis of the traditional Labour Party.

You know what I meant. I meant if it were a deceased liberal former PM.

Well again, I would say Tony Blair would elicit a similar reaction, though you could debate whether he was actually a liberal.

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10 Apr 2013, 2:11 pm

She stopped and asked me how I was once in the House of Lords, me, a nobody.

One of the girls I work with today was in some pokey little out of the way hole of an office once when Margaret just popped in, out of the blue, sat down with her and chatted with her, despite her position, unlike some of the MPs, she still took the time to go out of her way to be friendly to us ordinary folk.

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10 Apr 2013, 3:56 pm

b9 wrote:

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talk about being cut down in one's youth.

Well spare a thought for Jon-Paul Gilhooley please. He was 10 years old when died at Hillsborough!

First off soccer fans where blamed for the disaster for over 20 years. Last year the Hillsborough Independent Panel report found that soccer fans were not to blame, the main cause of the disaster was lack of police control and poor crowd safety. The police force involved in the disaster was South Yorkshire Police, the same police force involved 1984/85 miners strikes.

Like I have said before documents about Thatcher involvement weren't disclosed to the Hillsborough Independent Panel.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpoo ... -33139015/

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10 Apr 2013, 4:06 pm

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It's unfortunate that she's dead, but people die...That's why I'm indifferent to it.

past a certain point death is fortunate. Can you imagine living well beyond our healthy years with our bodies withering a breaking down. At some point death is a welcome relief.

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10 Apr 2013, 5:34 pm

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I'm glad the horrible old b***h is dead.

She save Great Britain. Great Britain was sliding into socialist muck. (Not so) Great Britain had become the "sick man" of Europe.

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10 Apr 2013, 6:07 pm

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I'm glad the horrible old b***h is dead.

She save Great Britain. Great Britain was sliding into socialist muck. (Not so) Great Britain had become the "sick man" of Europe.

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You don't have a clue. The former industrial towns of Northern Britain are now derelict ghost towns and shells of their former selves.

She helped the rich and turned Britain into a gentrified hell hole for everyone else.

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10 Apr 2013, 6:30 pm

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I'm glad the horrible old b***h is dead.

She save Great Britain. Great Britain was sliding into socialist muck. (Not so) Great Britain had become the "sick man" of Europe.

ruveyn

gentrified and what this is, i'm not familiar with the name, it's is bad?

What's would not speak about the late Margaret Tacher, had charisma, from what I've read the whole of Britain on was on General strike, but she don't fear it and ignored it because she knew that these reforms must be carried out,

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10 Apr 2013, 6:34 pm

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The former industrial towns of Northern Britain are now derelict ghost towns and shells of their former selves.

I rather thought they were already failing areas which relied exclusively on employment from heavily subsidised, loss-making shells long before Thatcher put those out of their misery. Britain was already on the way to losing the bulk of the heavy industries.
How much longer do you think they would have lasted anyway, if she'd done nothing, the subsidies were stopped and they were left to their own devices? (and the vice-like grip of unions)

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10 Apr 2013, 6:42 pm

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You don't have a clue. The former industrial towns of Northern Britain are now derelict ghost towns and shells of their former selves.

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That is because they were set up to operate at a loss. Any economic unit that operates at a loss over the long haul is simply going to stop and die without anyone putting an end to them. Great Britain was an economic basket case before Thatcher came into power.

You think an economy can work on fond hopes and fervent wishes. Well, it just ain't so.. Look at the Rust Belt in the U.S. The government did not put those areas out of business. They went bankrupt and ceased to function. Losing economic units sicken and die without any help or hinderance from the government.

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10 Apr 2013, 6:45 pm

Clement Atlee started Great Britain on its road to (socialist) ruin. He was part of the problem, not part of the solution.

If I recall Atlee and has labourites made the William Blake hymn Jerusalem their theme song. They sought to build Jerusalem on England's green and pleasant land. What they built actually, was economic disaster.

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10 Apr 2013, 6:48 pm

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gentrified and what this is, i'm not familiar with the name, it's is bad?

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Gentrification is the process whereby the cost of living in a city or town is driven up and the value of labour is driven down, usually at the behest of the interests of the wealthy.

Thatchers rule was a merciless operation in this very process.

Whether or not its a bad thing depends what side of the labour divide you are on.

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10 Apr 2013, 6:48 pm

That image is emotive, cherry-picked claptrap.
She's also not getting a state funeral.

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10 Apr 2013, 6:51 pm

She is getting a ceremonial funeral which is one notch below a state funeral.

The taxpayer whom she held in so much contempt is still picking up the bill either way.

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