If there was an Autistic state would you migrate there?

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Good point, I think you partly answered naturalplastic's question.

Also, if we do build a successful independent community, the wider world will start to see us as just another group of humans rather than a group of people who are defective.



The risk is that the genetic causes of Autism could be found, and Autistic babies could just end up being aborted before acceptance of Autism arrives.


, but these can be achieved in modern society today, it's called raising acceptance not awareness.

Eh? Germany is closer to Russia than this place

Except Germany is a sovereign nation state and its a little bit closer to Western Europe. I don't even feel comfortable with the idea of living in Germany. This location you say is in Eastern Europe. It used to be behind the Iron Curtain, you can bet if Russia gets mobile again, which its already showing signs of, you'd be in trouble. Have you heard what they do to LGBT people in Russia, I can only imagine what they'd do to a community of identified Autistics.

No I won't bite, this project is severely underfunded, you're talking about living in a ghetto that can hopefully sustain itself with natural resources and Jerry rigged generators. Could I possibly survive out there? Yes I'm not helpless and am quite fit. Am I going to? No. I would prefer to remain in the first world even with all its problems and try to do some good here.

Christ, what kind of fantasy nightmare world do you live in?



It actually has the potential to make a lot of money, but it's not really gonna be suitable for the type of person who sits around complaining all the time and never gets anything done.

If anyone feels they want to be part of the solution, then please step forward.

Two aspies can be as different from each other as either is from an NT. Or if you prefer whilst we might all be on the "wrong planet" we don't all have the same "home planet"!
Thus the whole "autistic state" idea could never possibly be workable.

"If a, then z."

That's very much like saying that the difference between a Mullah in the Islamic State and a lesbian gay rights activistist in San Fransisco rules out the possibility of humans every forming communities...

At the moment, however, my intention is focused more on developing city-in-a-box, the expansion pack to the global village construction set. I want to build a Commonwealth of MIcronations that are post-scarcity and self-sufficient. So, I'm up for helping anyone wanting to build a village (cue, "Do you want to build a village?"), but I have no wish to settle down anywhere yet; I have a heavenly city in mind. It's a dwarf planet called Ceres.

So, I might come out and see such a settlement, and help in some building work, but not for moving there.

and you are basing this on what... exactly?

How can you find 2.5 million square miles of unclaimed land in Eastern Europe when the entire continent of Europe (from the Atlantic to the Ural Mountains in Russia) is less than 3 million square miles?

You found a piece of land almost as big all of Europe rolled up in closet (like a carpet) inside of Eastern Europe?

This seems to sum the whole debate up

On Russia, I find it amusing how some can portray Russia as the big scary intolerant bogeyman when it is the one fighting to stop the spread of National Socialism in Eastern Europe. NATO on the other hand seems to be doing all it can to protect the Ukrainian fascists.

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I went googling for what this could possibly be. It could only possibly be this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_nullius



That must be 2.5 thousand miles at most. Maybe just 2.5 miles full stop. In any case, trying to make a nation state in a piece of land that Serbia and Croatia are bickering about seems like a supremely dangerous idea.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia%E2%80%93Serbia_border_dispute

Woops. It's 54 square miles....in land Serbia and Croatia are bickering over.
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Lol yeah, that makes a lot more sense, didn't stop to think about it, just copied what they were saying on their Autistic State forum

Have you actually read this forum??

Also, while yes we all differ from each other the same way NT's differ from each other, we tend to get very intense and dogmatic over little things as well as big things, and we aren't anywhere near as flexible about things in general as NT's are. It wouldn't work. You probably couldn't get a good cross section of us representing differing groups to even form a workable government. Nothing against us as people, but we aren't exactly given to compromise. Compromise is vital in running a government.

Also, from what I've seen here, many of us don't really embrace the concept of agreeing to disagree and being able to get along with someone else when we vehemently disagree with just one single opinion of theirs. If you really think it'll work, go for it. Buy your land and start your commune or state or whatever you want it to be. I'll catch the updates on the news.

I don't think you understand the technicalities of the dispute.

The terra nullius only lies on the western (croatian side of the river bank). Both sides want the territories on the eastern side of the bank because it is more favourable. The western territories aren't disputed because either side wants them, they are disputed because NEITHER side wants them. If they were to accept them then it would mean rejecting their claim on the territories on the serbian side of the river, part of which is under croatian control. If someone were to go to the terra nulius to claim it, it is highly unlikely that either side would send forces to remove it, especially not the serbians since it would mean accepting the territorial status quo which the Serbs are opposed to.

Its not as simple as simply buying a land since the country which you buy it in still claims sovereignty over it.

There is several answers we would be better off with a country of our own, let me explain.

First and perhaps most importantly, a disproportionate number of autistic people are unemployed and suffering from poverty related issues (approx 85 percent of all autistics are out of work at any one time). The fact of the matter is that neurotypically governed countries have no interest or political will in fixing this deficit because the majority of the workforce has no need of creating autie friendly industry.

secondly, anti autistic prejudice and neglect is very much a real phenomenon. In various countries, including this one, government neglect forces autistic people into ever more precarious situations or even death.
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/110433 ... _were_cut/
Also, there is a culture of anti autistic bullying that is not challenged both at a industrial and societal level. Only recent an american autistic man was bullied into killing himself by his employers at Walmart. An autistic government could take greater action to ensure that such companies in our nation couldnt behave this way.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local ... 62711.html


Setting up a commune within an existing jurisdiction simply isnt enough. Without being able to control the law making process, it is far harder to protect the safety, welfare and interests of autistic people. We will still have to travel to neurotypical run places of work with all of the issues that that entails. When it comes to welfare there simply isnt the political will within contemporary governments to address the needs of people with specific requirements. We could help to resolve this through cultivating aspie friendly industry (aspie friendly jobs) and ensuring our tax money is part prioritised towards helping the least among us.

Perhaps lastly, if the opportunity to establish a society with its own autonomous legislation making capacity is there why not sieze it with both hands? We will be far more empowered as a community and our successful running of it will be the best possible advocacy message between the neurological groups within the NT world.