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16 May 2016, 9:29 pm

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Don't claim victory until the final votes are counted.

There are people who will vote against Mr. Trump no matter who the opposition may be, given that Mr. Trump has demonstrated his anti-female, anti-foreigner, and anti-minority biases. Native-born white males are not the only people who can vote, y'know ...


Here, hear!

Being the SOB that I can be at times, I would laugh my ever-loving arse off if the tRump did win, since the American electorate would once again prove H. L. Mencken's dictum, "Never overestimate the intelligence of the American electorate."

And no, I haven't changed my mind about either the tRump or Billery. I still feel the Bern, but I trust any politician about s far as I can hit the broad side of a cow barn with a softball (and I can't do that tremendous feat).



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17 May 2016, 6:21 am

Trump will never defeat Hillary. Despite so much including the way the electoral college is set up, demographics trending progressive Hillary has a fighting chance of defeating Hillary. She has every much the degree of problems with male voters as Trump has with women voters.

Bill was and is every much the crook/liar his wife is but is much, much, much, much, much better at it. Hillary's every word seems insincere. So much so that I am surprised nobody has started an "Is Hillary an Aspie?" thread yet. Bill convinced millions upon millions he felt thier pain.


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17 May 2016, 6:57 am

The Trumpening is coming.


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17 May 2016, 7:27 am

Much of the backing for Clinton and Trump comes from people whose primary motivation is to simply stop the other side from winning, rather than any love for either of the two candidates or their policies.

Neither side wants the other to be selecting any Supreme Court justices. That's the heart of the matter.



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17 May 2016, 3:11 pm

I try not to get involved in politics, but one thing I've noticed is that Republicans expect people to believe whatever they say, regardless of the lack of evidence. Another thing I've noticed is that some just expect you to use Google(even though the same garbage they would've brought to the table is what they're hoping you'll find). Sorry, bud! People are gonna think you're bullsh*tting, if you don't present.



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17 May 2016, 3:13 pm

That and the evidence they do come up with was fabricated, resulting in meaningless memes that don't tell the whole story. Machiavellian, yeah?



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17 May 2016, 7:17 pm

And what does Trump's wallet have anything to do with the subject matter? His being rich doesn't make him a good politician. If wealth and popularity were what made a president ideal for this nation, then let's write in one of the Kardashians or Sam Rockwell(what with his role as Zaphod Beeblebrox on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy).



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17 May 2016, 8:22 pm

Dr_Manhattan wrote:
And what does Trump's wallet have anything to do with the subject matter? His being rich doesn't make him a good politician. If wealth and popularity were what made a president ideal for this nation, then let's write in one of the Kardashians or Sam Rockwell(what with his role as Zaphod Beeblebrox on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy).


What makes a good politician? A lot of crooked deals and greased palms?



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17 May 2016, 9:05 pm

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Trump is scary ... not in a powerful authoritarian way but in a kind of ...
crazy..... `who knows what the f**k will happen`....... Kim Jong-Un `locked in`to my own ego syndrome, kind of way.

Yee haw! it`ll be one hell of a ride if this twat gets in

US always comes up with crazies that compete with the very best
(No offense intended to the reasonable Yanks of either party with their faculties remaining in tact)


Checks and balances though, basically a president cannot become a dictator like Kim Jong-Un.


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17 May 2016, 9:53 pm

What is crazy about Trump? He doesn't respect political correctness? The fact he he wants to solve the illegal immigration issue, his opposition to these bad so called free trade deals, or his reluctance to play world police? He's the most sensible candidate, the media is trying to protect its corporate masters by smearing him as something he's not.



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18 May 2016, 12:45 am

Jacoby wrote:
Dr_Manhattan wrote:
And what does Trump's wallet have anything to do with the subject matter? His being rich doesn't make him a good politician. If wealth and popularity were what made a president ideal for this nation, then let's write in one of the Kardashians or Sam Rockwell(what with his role as Zaphod Beeblebrox on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy).


What makes a good politician? A lot of crooked deals and greased palms?


Well, at least the politician who behaves as such gets things done. :lol:


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18 May 2016, 12:53 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Peejay wrote:
Trump is scary ... not in a powerful authoritarian way but in a kind of ...
crazy..... `who knows what the f**k will happen`....... Kim Jong-Un `locked in`to my own ego syndrome, kind of way.

Yee haw! it`ll be one hell of a ride if this twat gets in

US always comes up with crazies that compete with the very best
(No offense intended to the reasonable Yanks of either party with their faculties remaining in tact)


Checks and balances though, basically a president cannot become a dictator like Kim Jong-Un.


Then again, plenty of Republican politicians want to nullify the judicial branch. That's especially popular with opponents of Obamacare, marriage equality, and transgender rights. Back when Newt Gingrich was running for President, he said judges should be dragged in front of the congress by federal marshals in order to explain unpopular decisions. I wouldn't take much solace in the three branches of government preventing Trump or anyone else taking absolute power, as there is already a movement to disable at least one of the three branches. I hope I'm just being an alarmist.


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18 May 2016, 6:22 am

Jacoby wrote:
What is crazy about Trump? He doesn't respect political correctness? The fact he he wants to solve the illegal immigration issue, his opposition to these bad so called free trade deals, or his reluctance to play world police? He's the most sensible candidate, the media is trying to protect its corporate masters by smearing him as something he's not.


I don't recall him having any experience in foreign diplomacy.



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18 May 2016, 12:18 pm

Dr_Manhattan wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
What is crazy about Trump? He doesn't respect political correctness? The fact he he wants to solve the illegal immigration issue, his opposition to these bad so called free trade deals, or his reluctance to play world police? He's the most sensible candidate, the media is trying to protect its corporate masters by smearing him as something he's not.


I don't recall him having any experience in foreign diplomacy.

And Hillary Clinton has done such a great job with her foreign policy experience, right?



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18 May 2016, 12:28 pm

CommanderKeen wrote:
Dr_Manhattan wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
What is crazy about Trump? He doesn't respect political correctness? The fact he he wants to solve the illegal immigration issue, his opposition to these bad so called free trade deals, or his reluctance to play world police? He's the most sensible candidate, the media is trying to protect its corporate masters by smearing him as something he's not.


I don't recall him having any experience in foreign diplomacy.

And Hillary Clinton has done such a great job with her foreign policy experience, right?


They were never actually able to prove anything surrounding the Benghazi Riot. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust her, either. But so much obscurity surrounds the event. I don't trust Trump because all it takes is one insensitive comment and BOOOOOM!! !! No more America.



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18 May 2016, 1:18 pm

Yet Trump is the only one willing to work with leaders and establish peace, including working with Russia. We could actually have a powerful US/Russian alliance. Tensions with Russia will finally dissolve and the world would be a better place for it, not to mention the alliance would wipe out terrorists.