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I don't claim to be an expert on the happenings of 9/11, or how or why the buildings reacted the way they did when hit by the planes. But there is something insulting to the dead, and their surviving loved ones, by saying the Al Qaeda agents who had committed mass murder were actually innocent.

I'm sorry to say I don't agree with you, Bill.

First you say you're not an expert. What this means Bill is that you admit you don't know all of the facts and are not able to understand why the buildings fell and etc.

And then you make a wild ess guess and, without all the facts (as you've just told us), you make up your mind, and would use your self-admitted lack of understanding to act as judge and jury to make an assumption? Sounds kind of sketchy.

And in your great ignorance you try to claim the moral high ground. There's a whole political party trying to do that very thing, right now you know.

The thing that's insulting here is someone who, through their ignorance, have decided they do not need to understand the facts of the matter and automatically jump to the corrupt government explanation, without actually knowing this is true and then sweep the entire mess under the rug and forget about whether the accusations pushed by the government have any basis in truth.

This is called giving "short shrift" to the memories of the dead, Bill; you can do better than just try to argue, you know, Bill. Doing what you are doing is VERY insulting to the memories of those that died.

Think about it. Is accepting the government's stance without the utmost scrutiny honoring the dead? I know you like to accept everything your mommy/daddy (the government) tells you.

There are extremely thorough and detailed debunkings of 9/11 conspiracy theories all over the web. Firefighters who were actually at the scene of WTC 7 were not at all surprised the building collapsed. I trust people who were actually at the scene more than people coming up with conspiracy theories over the internet.

I don't believe everything "the government" tells me. I use my own f*****g brain to come up with conclusions. People who believe in 9/11 conspiracies clearly don't have a logical thinking brain.

Shouldn't John Podesta be held accountable for being so incompetent with his web security? Perhaps this is because I am probably more computer literate than most but to me there really is no excuse for falling for these phishing schemes on the equivalence of one of those Nigerian prince emails. There was so little attention paid to securing their data that what is likely is that multiple entities gained access, there is no telling where any of it came from. The 'intelligence' behind this is even more dubious than the Iraq 'WMDs' and the media is playing the fool once again.

I think Marshal gave a very good answer.
And no, I don't accept everything my government tells me. I never believed W Shrub's justification for attacking Iraq, knowing he was trying to just finish his dad's job. And I certainly don't think the Kennedy assassination was carried out by just Lee Harvey Oswald, as the government claims, but was the work of fanatical Anti-Castroites who had been on the CIA's payroll as contract agents, and contacts.

You don't even know what you are calling a conspiracy, how could you know what is true or not. You are admitted to believing anything CNN reports and they're the biggest proponents of "fake news"

The government lied to us about alleged intelligence that showed Iraq had WMDs, and they are now lying to us about Russia hacking our election. Of course, it's always the other side who lies, right? I still amazed that there are Pubs who are in denial bout Iraq -- and, of course, amazed there are Dems who believe the BS currently flowing coming from the Obama administration.

Very few diehards left for the invasion of Iraq, I feel like Republican voters sent a pretty clear message repudiating the war by voting Donald Trump considering what he said about Bush, the war, and 9/11. This stuff with Russia is even more reckless as Russia probably have even more advanced nuclear forces than the US does as opposed to crumbling nation of Iraq, Democrats are intentionally being misleading too trying imply that the Russians actually hacked the results of the election. Bush, Obama, and Clinton are all neocons and all CIA backed; the CIA has been in control of this country since at least Reagan after they temporarily lost a grip on power with the intelligence revelations of the mid-70s. Thinking Russia 'hacked' the election is basically the equivalent of believing the Saddam Hussein was giving refuge al-Qaeda in addition to the WMDs, it's something these freaks just desperately want to convince people of to justify their evil deeds.

It's hard to even have begrudging respect for Obama at this point, he's so childish and hypocritical with almost everything he says or does. The whole Democratic campaign was about how Trump was a loose cannon who would let his ego get the best of him and cause international incidents but that is exactly what the Obama and the Democrats are doing right now. Likewise about the whole not accepting the results of a free and fair democratic election and peaceful transfer of power, it really is shameful.

Well that's great...at least I know we have one working brain between us. So what did your brain think of the way Bldg. 7 fell? Didn't it seem a little odd to your thinking? Did you actually take the time to think? Most thinking people of my aquantance have some unanswered questions.
And what about the Pentagon attack? When those wings hit a building they're not only full of fuel but they each carry two very heavy gigantic jet engines.....Where's the debris? What other answer does your big brain give you? Early reports were there was only one jet engine found.

I am absolutely sure that Pizzagate is absolute bullsh*t. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what is truth and what isn't. Pizzagate and W Shrub's justification for the Iraq war were clearly fake to anyone with enough brain cells.

The tower seven fell down from fires free to roam without much intervention from the firemen who were more than enough busy elsewhere, as for the debris of jet on the pentagon, they must have been mixed with the debris of pentagon as the jet got right through it.

OK. I understand some of what you're trying to propose...BUT now you must give us the evidence you used to make your conjecture.

Otherwise we have to believe you're just trying to fabricate the whole thing using nothing but your wild imagination.

For example: I base my statements upon videos showing the untouched Building 7 after the towers fell. And the fact there were many hundreds of firefighters available and fires were not reported in Building 7. YOU need to provide evidence for your contention there "were" fires overlooked (?) by the fire department.

Additionally my comments about the Pentagon were based on photos published online and, if you search a little, you can view them also, despite all attempts at erasing the evidence.

You can't just pull little green men out of your butt to prove your contention...let's see the facts. Saying "the jet got right through it" means...if the wings just "got through" then where are the holes or signs of impact?

I base my statements on what specialists (Like engineers knowing what they talk about) had said on 9/11.

Just from some quick search.





The official story is so far the most convincing one.

Same.

Thanks. I watched various videos debunking WTC 7 conspiracy theories ten years ago. I was curious as to why it fell the way it did, and I found a convincing evidence for what actually happened online. I don't feel like posting these things for people too lazy to look them up for themselves. It isn't my damn job.

It's just as you say Bill. From the Iraq war through the admitted false flag incident and through the government's use of the civilian population as subjects for LSD testing, etc. etc., etc. we've (well some of us at least) learned the government has no scruples generating false information, FALSE NEWS if you will, and passing it off to a gullible populace as truth.

And yet there are people that will accept every lie sent their way because these people have been trained "not to talk back to their superiors" and to take the subservient role. One of the common mistakes of parenthood I'm afraid, and one which corrupt governments know how to take advantage of, as they've shown us in the past with the examples you provide.

Israelis being arrested on 9/11 filming and celebrating as the first plane hit, being arrested with traces of explosives in their van after being seen in the towers the day before and other Israelis being arrested with a van packed with explosives is "circumstantial"??
Bin Laden worked for the CIA in the 1980's to fight against the Soviets, you didn't know that?? Bin Laden didn't carry out 9/11.
Yes that's pretty much exactly why they were cheering after the first plane hit!! The only problem being that no one knew it was a terrorist attack at that time, they did though.