Evolution is the biggest lie ever told !

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Simply .... growing up I had learning disabilities and light sensitivity which caused me great distress in school.

The teachers/kids/my parents made fun of me, as I was deemed "retarted".

I received much verbal and physical force used against me.

More knowledgeable now, after a decades of memorizing information, I rebel against control.

I rebel against phony ideas coming from pretenders that want to use their phony ideas to mentally/physically control me.


I find it odd that you would commit to a particular idea.

Wrong. You obviously don't know the difference between 'theory' in the scientific sense and colloquial sense. I suggest you look it up...unless you're too close-minded for that teeny bit of information to enter your mind.

I find your distrust of scientists intriguing...seems like you think there is some type of conspiracy.

I might have to check that out if it's what it's being presented as. I do love it when scientists are willing to knock down any sacred cows and go contrary to cherished theories for the sake of getting the broader community to know more than it already thought it did about a process like evolution.

I think there is a lot in the theory of evolution to be shored up, and I'm sure even more dynamics in its current mysteries which will lead to more mysteries still. Either way though I can't see them attempting a full reversal on the claims that single cells multiplied, began combining into multi-celled structure, and that this accelerated on a J-curve of sorts between 1 billion to 600 million years ago to yield the rich variety of organic life we have today. The details of how that process worked is probably what still has plenty of earlier assumptions open to debate based on the bulk accrual of incongruities in the data. Ironing that out is how good science is done.

I post often about physicists on this site.

The smartest people in physics grabble with trying understand reality.

What do you know that they don't?

You say "wrong" but you don't indicate you know anything? If you know something, then fame and fortunate await you.

The truth is that you don't know how reality works.

You may like to pretend you do, but people can see through that.

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Do you understand the difference between the word "theory" in the scientific sense and the colloquial sense?

Call it what you want.

The smartest physicists on the planet don't understand how reality works.

They will admit that.

So, are you saying , you know how reality works ?

I asked you a very straightforward question. Don't try to dodge it.

It's all the same.

A human made up idea.

It is not all the same. Since you refuse to acknowledge that you don't know the difference, I will simply explain it: when people colloquially talk about theories, they really mean hypotheses. That is, an idea that can be tested as a starting point. A theory, in the scientific sense, can be described as "a model that produces accurate predictions". So when you speak of all these physicists having no idea about how reality works, what they mean is "we have worked from these models and they have worked to this point, but now we have reached extreme areas in which our models break down, and we don't know how to accurately modify them to continue". However, when that reaches you, no doubt via LOLScience Magazine Weekly, that suddenly becomes "well, 300 years of applying the scientific method got us here, but since we can't explain this particular weirdness, that must mean that "a wizard did it" is basically on par with science in terms of explaining power, right?" Because all ideas are just the same as all other ideas, right? And since words are just ideas tied to sounds, and all ideas are equal, so all words equal all other words and suddenly language is useless! Good job!

I don't know what the hip of whales look like to be honest, but this may well be explained by evolution; whales ancestors were land animals that returned to sea, and thus they kept some bones that used to be useful on land but are useless for them right now.

Oh wow. How can I even argue with someone who doesn't understand the difference between the word "theory" in the scientific sense and the colloquial sense? Imagine just how wrong your ideas of science and especially the falsifiable, predictive THEORY of evolution are?

Falsifable means nothing.

Newton's Laws of Motion (Note: not a theory but a scientific law) were proven incorrect regarding how reality works, upon the discovery of the quantum level.

You do all the scientific test, falsifablity , or whatever jargon to Newton's laws, but it's not how reality works. Physicists will tell you this in a basic physics course.

Don't let con men scientists slap "law" or "theory" on something, and close off your mind to the truth.

Please watch this video:

This is ad hominen.

You never address my points, but accuse me of being a "conspiracy person".

This is what they teach in college.

If you are interested, I watched the whole Yale university physics courses on Youtube by Professor Shankar.

Good stuff. Watch, learn , and you won't have to resort to ad hominen arguments.

This isn't about physics, I don't have undergrad training in physics, mine is in biological sciences. I was hoping that you would watch the video (though it was a rather misplaced hope) because your distrust of science does seem that way, and I was hoping you would actually learn something about theories, predictive theories and falsifiability, after which we could actually have a conversation.

I am not going to waste too much time arguing with someone like you sees conspiracies where there are none, and try and explain everything from the basics up to them because quite frankly, it's not worth the time and effort as I already know it'll go nowhere.

Call it ad hominem or whatever you want, I don't really care.

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Okay. Like me, and like everyone on WP who grew up prior to 1994 (when they put aspergers into the DSM) you were
traumatized by everyone in your childhood. But what does any of that have to do with science?

You were oppressed by teachers and parents and peers because they didn't accommodate your sensory issues and learning disabilities because they all didn't know any better and they all thought you were a malingerer of bad character who needed to be abused. But science has advanced since then and now the world knows better. Knows that there are such things as learning disabilities and sensory issues. The advance of knowledge (science) was your liberation (or would have been your liberation had you lived in a slightly later time). You were oppressed in grade school because of the LACK of science that existed at that time.

The lack of science oppressed you. The increase in science freed you.

But in your mind it looks like you have twisted it around, and are now telling us that scientists somehow oppressed you in childhood. Other kids and parents and teachers were the villians. Not scientists. And later advances made by scientists were what would have freed you.

So you're contradicting yourself.