The appeal of online Incel communities to autistic men

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Short answer: No.

Longer answer: All women have a mostly equal chance of finding a man, as opposed to 80% of women being attracted to only 20% of men; it's just evolution. Although, if your friend is truly highly obese, then you may be partially right: alpha males may simply pass her over in favor of slimmer, sexier women. A beta male, in turn, may go for the first willing taker, regardless of her attractiveness or lack thereof. But the woman still won't have any sexual feeling toward him, and will simply see him as a backup guy to settle down with.

I know several women who “can’t find anyone.”

I think everyone can find someone. It just might be harder for some than for others.

Oh okay, but if guys can still have feelings for females that alphas will not take, then why can't a woman have feelings the same way, for a guy in the same dilemma. Are you saying that bioligically, women are just more cold that way likely?

Ive experienced rejection, bullying, and many other things related to not being an “alpha male.” I could have very easily go down that defensive rabbit hole. I decided against it. I didn’t sense that it would work for me. And I didn’t believe in that philosophy, anyway.

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So in whatever you did or whatever you were thinking/feeling, you missed what I said about evolutionary psychology.

I think I've come up with a way to phrase this that won't get confused.

What I was trying to say about the relationship between evolutionary psychology and red pill or MGTOW - red pill and MGTOW are something like a 'pop' version of evolutionary psychology. They have a common knowledge base, obviously the 'pop' anything is degenerate for cultural consumption.

Why listen to something 'degenerate' though? Again, bringing up ThinkingApe, his topics are all over the map - a lot of it's politics, a lot of it's culture, a lot of it's current events, and I enjoy listening to him because he's an insightful guy. When he does hit almost exclusively on relationship topics it kind of bores me because I'd rather listen to him talk about other things more often. I think I listen to him far more because he's him than I'd listen to him with MGTOW or anything else like that in mind.

The place where my empathy might be failing here, and maybe this is part of why I'm feeling like there's a lot to drill through, I look at the rest of the content in this thread and I have to remember that me three-sheets-to-the-wind drunk is most people's sobriety. You're trying to read what I'm saying at the same time as reading a lot of guys who are complaining about exactly 'that', so it was probably just a halo effect going on.

Lol, and for anyone who wonders why I like to trip as much as I do... yeah, you can imagine ultra-sobriety's a thing that needs it's own style of maintenance, a bit like giving my brain a shower.

Women aren't "more cold". They're simply incapable of having genuinely lustful, sexual desires toward beta males. It's like a straight man being "incapable" of French kissing another man, or for a milder example, dancing in a snuggle with another man. He physically can do it, but imagine the thoughts going through his head during the act. (Conversely, a straight woman will find it less disgusting to French kiss another woman than to French kiss a beta male.)

And before anyone screams "Miss Sodgy Knee!", it's not and never was the women's fault. Blaming women for disliking beta males is like blaming men for liking long hair and big breasts.

I’m Beta.

Women have been pretty passionate about me. Sometimes too passionate. Maybe for the wrong reasons.

I haven’t had too many women be “disgusted” with me after I stopped with the desperation. Women can smell desperation a mile away.

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People don't have much control over what they're attracted to, that much is correct. It's almost Freudian 'id' driven, and I say that as whose had plenty of experience with the base of my own spine trying to sort me out. I could start talking about kundalini syndrome and all that but lets just say Freud was right about Id, the animal being our battery pack and where we draw our power from, it's got loads of power but it isn't the brightest thing in the world. It seems like that, not us, pulls the strings on what gets us fluffed or dewy.

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So if a woman has to go for a beta-male, it's the equivalent, of resorting to homosexuality for her pretty much, but if a guy has to resort to a 'beta-female', he is still sexually attracted?

I must not be a woman then.

I’ve experienced absolute lust for a so-called “beta,” not that I believe in such nonsense - at least not how it’s depicted here.

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

Women lust after beta males all the time, and feel excellent about it!

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What? You’re telling me that we aren’t all wolves, driven primarily by instinct?? Crazy!

Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: Women's sexuality is more fluid than men's, hence "Girls Gone Wild". A straight woman will have an easier time being sexual with another woman than with a beta male, because her visceral revulsion toward beta males is very strong, while her reaction toward other women is merely neutral. But from a male point of view, you're right; I dated quite a few unattractive women in the past, and still had few problems getting turned on while in bed with them or at least while kissing. (Although to be honest, my 20-something age helped me; it's anybody's guess if I'd pull it off today while pushing 40.)

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Visceral revulsion?

Maybe I mistook revulsion for lust.

It’s great that women can be told how they actually feel by the experts.

Oh okay, I see this is very interesting. Could beta-male men perhaps become alpha and become balsy and confident, don't take BS, and hit the gym if that would help them attract women more?