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04 Nov 2020, 8:04 pm

I think the proverbial fat lady is rumbling big time....



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04 Nov 2020, 8:07 pm

GGPViper wrote:
The latest on Pennsylvania:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ident.html

At 75 % counted, Trump was ahead by approx. 680,000.
At 85 % counted, Trump is now ahead by approx. 290,000.
At 95 % counted, Trump might be behind by approx. ???.

So 57 % of Trump's vote lead is already gone, and there is still about a million more votes to be counted.

And a lot of the outstanding votes are from Philadelphia (only 70 % counted so far), where Biden has already gotten about 4 out of 5 votes so far.


Trumps lead in Pennsylvania has shrunk to +3 at 88% of the total vote. Biden is still trailing by 200,000 votes but that gap is closing fast.



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04 Nov 2020, 8:12 pm

Australia's largest bookmaker "Sportsbet" has already paid out winnings to punters who bet Biden
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... afe4427f5c

I think when money changes hands then the final bell has gonged.



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04 Nov 2020, 8:15 pm

Mr. Biden still needs 17 Electoral Votes (according to ABC data at 17:15 PST).

He leads in Arizona by a little over 90,000 popular votes. Arizona has 11 electoral votes.
He leads in Nevada by a little over 7600 popular votes. Nevada has 6 electoral votes.

He needs to win both states to achieve victory.



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04 Nov 2020, 8:25 pm

If Trump can get close to 270, then a few faithless electors can let him win.

Faithless elector
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

In 2016, there were 10 faithless electors.


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04 Nov 2020, 8:35 pm

TheRobotLives wrote:
If Trump can get close to 270, then a few faithless electors can let him win.

Faithless elector
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

In 2016, there were 10 faithless electors.


If I'm reading the information correctly, none of those electors then proceeded to vote for the other side, but another candidate/individual out of protest.



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04 Nov 2020, 8:38 pm

Feyokien wrote:
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TheRobotLives wrote:
If Trump can get close to 270, then a few faithless electors can let him win.

Faithless elector
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector

In 2016, there were 10 faithless electors.


If I'm reading the information correctly, none of those electors then proceeded to vote for the other side, but another candidate/individual out of protest.

Seems so.

However, in states with Republican governors like Arizona , the Republican governor is not likely to recall a faithless elector who votes for Trump.


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04 Nov 2020, 8:42 pm

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However, in states with Republican governors like Arizona , the Republican governor is not likely to recall a faithless elector who votes for Trump.


Perhaps. It could happen, although Trumps sour relationship with McCain may have tarnished his reputation with Arizona's republicans. That may be why Biden is winning there now? Just speculation.



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04 Nov 2020, 8:47 pm

Feyokien wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
However, in states with Republican governors like Arizona , the Republican governor is not likely to recall a faithless elector who votes for Trump.


Perhaps. It could happen, although Trumps sour relationship with McCain may have tarnished his reputation with Arizona's republicans. That may be why Biden is winning there now? Just speculation.

That's a good point.

I forgot he insulted McCain.


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04 Nov 2020, 8:54 pm

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It might "too little, too late" in Georgia---though this won't matter if Biden wins Nevada.


Looking extremely close. Biden is behind by 40,000 votes with only 2% of the vote left to count. I predict a Trump win there.



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04 Nov 2020, 9:02 pm

An expert from Trump's own party has declared its impossible for Trump to win from here
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... afb180c292



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04 Nov 2020, 9:36 pm

cyberdad wrote:
An expert from Trump's own party has declared its impossible for Trump to win from here
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... afb180c292

It was reported to be impossible before the election.

Polls indicated Biden was up +8 to +15.

538 put Trump's victory chances at 10%.

Trump had very low favorability ratings, yet, had amazing turnout.

Republicans gained House seats and protected the Senate.

Plus, increased Republican registrations, and gained among Hispanic voters.


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04 Nov 2020, 9:44 pm

If Trump gets AK, GA, NC, NV and PA he will have 271 vs Biden's 264.

The fact that this is still up in the air so long after the polls have closed, does put the integrity of this year's election process into question. No matter who wins, especially with it being so close, it's going to merit investigation.



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04 Nov 2020, 9:58 pm

Tempus Fugit wrote:
If Trump gets AK, GA, NC, NV and PA he will have 271 vs Biden's 264.

The fact that this is still up in the air so long after the polls have closed, does put the integrity of this year's election process into question. No matter who wins, especially with it being so close, it's going to merit investigation.

OR ..... AK + GA + NC + PA + 2 faithless electors :)


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04 Nov 2020, 10:05 pm

I think this election should be declared invalid and held again a year from now :twisted:



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05 Nov 2020, 1:14 am

Ok let's roll the dice....