What to do with anti-vax/anti-maskers...

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I guess it seems to me that is obvious, but if saying it out loud would help confidence, then they should have. But would it have?

I also don't think of short term side effects as something anyone would risk getting COVID-19 to avoid. I was well aware there would be short term side effects, so it was definitely talked about somewhere. No one has died or had permanent health issues following the sick one day side effect. The few deaths connected to the vaccines available here in the US all were the result of other underlying health conditions, and it is true that because the vaccine was new we hadn't sussed those out very well beforehand. But we have now.

Well, you certainly have a point that solid and honest communication can't usually hurt, only help. I feel like politics got in the way.

There is so much labelling out there, extreme opposite positions.

Anti-vaxx vs pro-vaxx
Anti-maskers
Covidiots vs Coronaphobics
Corona's witness movement.

In between the 2 extremes, there are tons of people torn in between just trying to do the best ot live a decent life, within the range of being safe with their health, without getting into the media and government's propaganda and the finger pointing started by the media.

There's good "solution" for the unmasked and the unvaccinated, and that's "final".

Perhaps we can start by making them wear an identifier on their clothes. It has to be in a bright color that stands out against most outerwear and a shape that's distinguishable from most geometric shapes. It can be any color the masked vaxxed people pick out, but yellow is a good choice, since it's bright and most people don't wear yellow. And a star is distinct from most geometric shapes, so let's go with that.

Then, we can make laws that apply to the unmasked and the unvaccinated, and not the rest of society. And we can penalize those lowly people for not following laws made "for their safety", up to and including snatching them off the street to be taken away from the masked vaxxed society.

But the best way to resolve "the unmasked and the unvaccinated" question is to take them to camps. Yeah, "camps", where lessons requiring "concentration" take place. Even though railroad boxcars have been largely supplanted by flatbed cars containers fit onto, there should be enough boxcars still around these days to run trains for such an operation.

The camps can have specialized showers for the unmasked and the unvaccinated. "For their safety", of course.

Yeah! Sounds like a plan! Wait a minute... hasn't that already been done before? And didn't people not like it?

You're making it complicated. Just shoot them with a vaccine.

Not, of course, if they are sovereign citizens!

speaking of shooting ...

Man shoots and kills his pharmacist brother who was injecting people with a COVID vaccine.

He believed his brother was killing people with the vaccine.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-record ... 00100.html

It seems a vaccine mandate may be put in place soon in schools. I guess we will see if that happens, but I support it. One thing is for sure happening though, and that is a vaccine mandate for certain positions such as those in the medical field. As far as I'm concerned, that mandate can't come soon enough. There also seems to be a federal mandate incoming where federal workers in a number of service positions, including airports and borders, will all have to have their vaccines.

That's horrible. Ah, yes. When someone does the thing they accuse others of doing, it really helps get their point across. /s Serial killer logic at its finest. What was his excuse for killing the 83 year old? It's clear this guy was looking for any excuse to kill people.

Godwin's Law would certainly apply to this post. I say fine them, jail them, and ban them from public places.

There's a country whose name I can't remember, that treated a specific group just like that. It also jailed "them" and banned "them" from public places. This makes me glad I don't know you in person and never will. Going by your posts, you'd narc on your own family to the government over a mask. And probably me as well, both for not wearing a mask and for diddling escorts. Especially considering that you followed me here KGB-style from the Incel thread in the L&D forum. Which is very disconcerting.

And why Godwin's Law? I never mentioned that guy or his political party!

I've already said that I think prostitution should be legal several times. Following you? Don't flatter yourself.

People's freedom does not extend to recklessly endangering other people's safety.

That's why students are required to get other vaccines. Why there are limitations on where you can smoke a cigarette. Why your car has to have working brakes...and you must stop for stop signs and red lights and not drove the wrong way on a road. Why food and food establishments are inspected....

We need folk to get vaccinated.

What to do with people who label other people, therefore creating more division in an already divided world.

Likely, everyone is an anti-vaxxer when pressed.

Just expose them.

Come get your plague vaccine, come get your anthrax vaccine .. oh, your rightfully scared... you betcha.

Exactly! Anti-vaxxers couldn't care less if someone else gets their shots. They just don't want one for themselves. Trashing them won't do any good in persuading them to get one.

Case in point. When Biden voters last year trashed people for having parties (and yet supported looting, but whatever), it didn't make me bow my head in shame and embrace social distancing. It made me want to do the opposite: join QAnon and party with my new friends. Which I did.

For the records, I'm pro-vax, anti-mask. I even got both Biden-19 shots last year. I just don't like being reminded that he won, and masks do just that. As for my Q friends, some got vaxxed, some did not. We don't discuss it any more than we discuss religion.

So do you really think there are underground bunkers where pedophiles are torturing children for adrenochrome? I know this is a mainstream belief among Q's.

No! We don't believe that. We do believe that George Soros and Anthony Fauci are in on the scamdemic. Soros gave the money, Fauci gave the knowledge, a lab in Wuhan gave the tools and the viral DNA, Antifa gave the destruction, the liberal media gave the fear, and Biden won because of all their efforts. The vaccine is basically damage control, after the crimes against humanity they all committed.

In before someone says "Jewish space lasers". We don't believe in it, and we laugh at people who say we do. In fact, some of my Q friends are Jewish.

Fair. I for one have no issue with people who opt not to get a shot but keep to themselves and don't go anywhere and understand that they're making a choice. In fact I know some such people and we get along just fine. We do kind of need a term for the crowd who's causing problems for other people though, and I'm sorry but screw those people who are blocking hospitals and storming schools. That's behaviour that should not be reinforced. I'm very much in support of their right to free speech and if they want to assemble in such a way that they're not a danger to anyone else then great, but there are certain lines that should not be crossed.

I recognize that not everyone who refuses to get a vaccine is like that, and I'm sorry they ruined the reputation of all such people, but I have little patience for those who put other's lives in jeopardy, and even less for those who make children cry. If there is a desire to dispel the bad rep people who refuse a vaccine get, as well as those who aren't keen on wearing masks, maybe talk to those who are the reason why such a reputation exists. Individuals acting like children and mistreating undeserving minimum wage service people also need to stop.Yeah...I don't think anything good is going to come from discussing political matters any further with you. Believe what you like, so long as you're not being a menace to others. But yeah, there are people who are bringing your reputation down even if you yourself aren't causing any problems.