Russia... Confused about what's going on...

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But when Al Quaida murdered a lot of people on 9/11, the US assassinated it's leader, Bin Laden, in retaliation. So Putin commits mass murder on the Ukraine, and it's the same thing in principle. So why would assassinating Putin just been seen as too unacceptable, when Bin Laden is assassinated for his crimes of mass murder, and no huge majority did not find it unnaceptable.

Also, Putin is like a really dangerous rabid dog at this point, where there is no trace of a human being left in him to be reasoned with, and the only thing left to do is just put him down like old Yeller, so to speak, before he harms anyone else, like a rabid dog would.

It can be argued Bin Laden was a criminal leader of a terrorist organization, and not a political leader like Putin, or the late Fidel Castro.

But when you wage more and mass murder, are people going to consider the political leader part much higher though? For example if Putin attacked the US and caused 9/11, are people going to consider him much higher than Bin Laden still, just because he is a political leader?

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Again, because of past CIA abuses when it came to eliminating foreign leaders who simply had policies contrary to US interests (and that didn't have to include mass murder), hitting political leaders became a no-no.

Well what if the US didn't do it, and it was just a NATO decision? Plus who has the US eliminated since no foreign leaders that I can recall were assasinated by the US, unless I missed something?

For one, Patrice Lumumba in the Congo had been assassinated by either the CIA or friendly CIA assets, and while not assassinations, the leadership of Iran had been removed in favor of the autocratic rule of the Shah (we all know how that turned out), as well as having installed Pinochet in power.

Oh I see. Well I don't think NATO can afford to be 'politically correct' on this one as Putin is not the type of guy, we can afford to fight with one hand tied around our b$%ls. This is the moment of truth, and not a time for any political correctness.

A lot of people have this notion that we can live in a world where we do not have to get our hands dirty, when faced with the ultimate threat, but will the UN be willing to face the fact the real world just does not work like that?

There comes a time where we are just going to have to kill a leader and get blood on our hands in order to surive whether we like it or not. We can't afford to be warm and fuzzy all the time, just because we think it should be an ideal world.

Blood on our hands, or Russia kills more innocent people and takes over more and more Europe. Our b%^s our on the line. What's it going to be.

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It's just a matter of US law forbidding such an action since the Church committee findings.

But I don't think this is soley up to the US and it's the responsibility of NATO as a whole. In times of fighting the ultimate evil and terror and war such as this, you cannot rely on the church to make say it's okay, everything will be fine, if you don't do what is necessary. Putin does not care what the church thinks. Putin doesn't care what anyone thinks. The only way to deal with such a person is take him out. Putin does not care, so why are the majority of people think they can bring him down with 'warm and fuzziness'?

And right now the UN thinks they can bring down Putin with 'sanctions'. As if Putin cares about sanctions. NATO should only be worrying about what Putin cares about, not about what they care about like the church, etc. And since Putin doesn't care about anything, the only thing NATO should be caring about is killing him, since there is nothing else will hurt him.

He's probably very poorly informed because everyone fears to tell him anything but good news.
That's a practical downside of a bully as a chief.

That was the kase with Hitler, also.

I see a disturbing lot of similarities between the two.

I should have explained, the Church committee was a senatorial investigative committee headed up by Senator Frank Church. I doubt the government would give a sh*t if all that stuff had been presented by a religious committee!

Oh I see I apologize I thought you meant the religious Church, my mistake. But also, this would be an assassination during a time of war in order to stop a war so isn't that more justifiable compared to the CIA just killing people outside of a time of war?

Frank Church was a famous US Senator from a generation or two ago.

Oh okay. Well I guess also feel that the NATO is being really weak on this response as well though. For example, on the news media, gas prices have gone up because of these sanctions NATO put on Russia. And people are saying it's okay to pay more for good and the cost of living if it holds Putin accountable.

But does doing that really hold Putin accountable? That would be like saying, instead of prosecuting OJ Simpson for murder to hold him accountable, let's just not pay to see his latest Naked Gun movie. That will show him. That's the attitude of NATO, is if someone is a murderer, or in this case a mass murderer, just don't his stuff, that will show him.