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08 Aug 2007, 12:22 am

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would you have homosexual sex the rest of your life if it would get you into heaven?

I would.


Well, the following recommendation won't get her into Heaven, but: Joining a nunnery WILL get her the sex!


hating on catholocism again? lol


No, just my fetish for truth. It's going on as sure as it is with the priests and the boys.


But is there any such sin noted in the bible?

A little womanly love is never bad.



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08 Aug 2007, 12:24 am

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Talking about heaven, I always wondered what is the sex or gender of the angels, or are they androgynous? I suppose they are asexuals?


We can choose.



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08 Aug 2007, 12:25 am

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Well, it's not just what the Bible says. Gay sex does seem quite odd to me, from what I've seen during my research. :? It just doesn't... jive. The men are clearly in agonizing anal pain, and their faces are so excruciatingly contorted they look like they're about to either run crying to mommy or give birth. this one's harder to criticize aesthetically.

The mechanics are wrong -- there's too much friction and pain, torture, going on.


You found that doing research? men agonizing anal pain? :? Where did you find this information or how did you come up with this conclusion? :?

A lot of straight couples have anal sex too, you know, so what you just said there doesn't seem to make much sense to me, doesn't sound like a good argument.

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And, while the women are more pleasant, because they are the fairer sex...

This is a subjective view, because you are a heterosexual guy, I am as well, for me a woman is a lot more pleasent and has a soft skin, nice smell, etc .... than another man. But that doesn't make it a good argument or a good reason to make an argument about saying homosexuality is wrong, you are also seeing this in a straight male point of view only, that hardly makes this a real objective view.

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So I really think heterosexuality is more natural than homosexuality. This is hardly a specifically Christian view. Most people from Islam all the way to science agree.

It is natural, sexuality is a lot more than just for reproduction, and there are animals who have homosexual activity, if animals do this, must be natural, isn't it?


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08 Aug 2007, 12:27 am

What you're seeing with the males, on
the receiving end, is probably the EXTREME
pleasure of having the prostate stimulated,
in conjunction with other feelings.

The male equivalent to the G-spot.



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08 Aug 2007, 12:38 am

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What you're seeing with the males, on
the receiving end, is probably the EXTREME
pleasure of having the prostate stimulated,
in conjunction with other feelings.

The male equivalent to the G-spot.

The P-Spot


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08 Aug 2007, 12:48 am

calandale wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
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would you have homosexual sex the rest of your life if it would get you into heaven?

I would.


Well, the following recommendation won't get her into Heaven, but: Joining a nunnery WILL get her the sex!


hating on catholocism again? lol


No, just my fetish for truth. It's going on as sure as it is with the priests and the boys.


But is there any such sin noted in the bible?

A little womanly love is never bad.


but between old nuns? ick lol or are we just imagining the new requruits (i give up on spelling today)


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08 Aug 2007, 12:51 am

there are species that reproduce asexually... (always female individuals) but they require copulatory acts from males or other females to induce the process of asexual reproduction

that's strange :wink:


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08 Aug 2007, 12:52 am

greenblue wrote:
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What you're seeing with the males, on
the receiving end, is probably the EXTREME
pleasure of having the prostate stimulated,
in conjunction with other feelings.

The male equivalent to the G-spot.

The P-Spot


well... it's easier to find!


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08 Aug 2007, 2:23 am

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but between old nuns? ick lol or are we just imagining the new requruits (i give up on spelling today)


Ah, the sweet little novitiates,
yes.

But look, older folk deserve some
lovin' too.



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08 Aug 2007, 3:58 am

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A person with gay inclinations could pray for God to less them, and He would.

This is such BS. I had a friend in school who was Catholic and gay (although he didn't admit that until he was about 17. He ended up suicidal and on anti-depressants because he couldn't deal with the fact that he was gay and his religion was so anti-gay. So don't tell me it's as easy as that.



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08 Aug 2007, 4:05 am

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But the argument isn't truly one of aesthetics anyway, I was just using that as an example of gay guys not seeming... truly compatible. The mechanics are wrong -- there's too much friction and pain, torture, going on.

So I really think heterosexuality is more natural than homosexuality. This is hardly a specifically Christian view. Most people from Islam all the way to science agree.

It's only natural to you because you are straight. For me, it wouldn't feel natural to f**k a man. And I doubt gay guys have sex if the only thing they derive from that is pain. And besides, since when was being gay solely about anal sex? Plenty of straight people do that and plenty of gay people don't.



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08 Aug 2007, 8:14 am

Of course homosexuality is unnatural; physically, biologically. That's obvious. But emotionally, psychologically, socially; it is as natural as the individual feels. Just like AS isn't 'normal' - does that make us any less human? Let them express their love, desire and sexual freedom. I'm sick of this Christian obsessiveness with people's personal and sexual lives. Perverts.


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08 Aug 2007, 8:58 am

I admit I was harsh earlier-but I have never really gotten a proper chance to give my point of view
(in my house I am always wrong-no matter what the issue) :roll:
anyways...
What I am gathering from whats being said-is I'll have to not be bi to get into heaven, marry a woman, be ashamed of myself no matter what and go to church :?
uhhh no thank you
I don't beleive in a heaven or hell
its all things to make you fallow/be afraid to sin
I have done many great things in my life (helping, volonteering, etc) and I have done bad stuff
but if there is a God and he is so wise-I am sure he wont care if someone likes men over women
The bible is terribly outdated, as is religion
it cant teach anything relivant to anybody (its one of the reasons I lost faith)
but I am not here to yak my story... :P



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08 Aug 2007, 9:49 am

Sedaka wrote:
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When I study a woman's ass... I mean, THAT ... GUY ... KNEW ... WHAT ... HE ... WAS ... DOIN', when makin' that lil piece o' heaven!! !

But what if that turns out to be a guy's ass?


and are you now saying ragtime... that your monkey anscestors would have thought that mokey tail was hot too?


My point is of art -- there was clearly an artist behind the design of the female body.


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08 Aug 2007, 9:52 am

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Homosexual attraction is for me a forced "Let's see if THIS mindset can work, if I really try".

Who the hell would choose to force themselves to 'try' being gay?


I was trying to empathize with gays, so that I'd learn something of the experience to desire my own gender. It was for you, Soph! :? What's the problem with upgrading my own understanding of the issues involved? Would you rather I remain more ignorant?

well, it looked like you were stating that gays forced themselves to have that attraction, people who are different from us, would not take that statement in a good way, or at least they would have that interpretation, that if you really meant something else.


the true measure of empathy would be for him to engage in homosexual relations in order to appease god.

that is what i sincerely doubt he could fathom.

i cannot nor could i pretend to do so... in actuality or "fathoming"

it is the same reason that many gay people have issues with religion... because THEY cannot fathom having to have straight sex or deny part of their sexuality...

just to get into heaven.


JUST??? I don't think you understand what Heaven is, or how A W E S O M E it is. It beats anything you can find in this world by about infinity.

Yeah, the most beautiful utopia
too bad gays are not allowed there, God discriminates.


Actually, no person-to-person marriage, or any sex, will exist there. "It's better than sex," as the expression goes. What we think of as marriage is actually modeled after, and a foreshadowing of, our spiritual union with the Lord. Except it will be perfect, because in Heaven everyone will be completely sinless, and voluntarily so. We'll have shed that skin, so to speak.

Talking about heaven, I always wondered what is the sex or gender of the angels, or are they androgynous? I suppose they are asexuals?
They are sexless (Matt 22:30), because they don't need to reproduce, because they never die.


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08 Aug 2007, 9:54 am

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i know what my heaven is very well thankyou... and it's much better than what the bible describes


Well, we can save that for another forum. I'd bet $1,000,000 you don't know and understand the Bible's description of Heaven. Did you know it has specfic measurements, for example? (And no, guys, they're not "36-24-36" ;) .)
Do you know about the specific jewels each of its twelve steps are made of? How about its streets and its sea? What are they made of? What shape is Heaven?
But I digress...


just causee you're ignoring the point to my posts...



You have to respond to posts to the extent that you want responses. It goes both ways.


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